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Ejection seat Facebook scare story

Someone today in Australia has let people know on facebook that a new buyer of a former USAF aircraft cockpit which made it out of the US and into Australia, has only just now found that the cockpit still has the rocket packs intact on the ejection seats.

Some people thought the issue of rocket packs was a joke and funny.
Others are letting everyone know it is a dangerous issue. I tend to lean towards dangerous and consider it as not funny.
I would suggest that it is a dangerous issue as unintended ejections processes can seriously injure and at the extreme can kill.
Active military personnel have died in cases where seats were thought to be safe….. but they werent.

Having rocket pack stored for 30-40years which it seems is this case now being discussed, in a seat bottom without knowing it was there is a concern. If it was fully loaded with packed rocket propellant, that is a hazard. Every day functional Aviation Life Support Equipment are maintained by professionals with many required to be serviced under time expired processes..ie the items / components have to be removed as they can become unstable, wont work as intended or decay in the long term. (That information was given to me many years ago by several knowledgeable former USAF ALSE personnel).

If someone pulled the handles on a old stored long term ejection seat – which let say has been pinned for safety…….but still loaded with a rocket pack – it still has the potential in that could as some suggest, maybe result in the ejection process setting of the rocket pack as a explosion.
For people who dont know, there is some significant explosive force in these propellants in the rocket packs which push the seats up the guide rails…….
These forces are evident in ejection seat testing photos.
At the extreme the seat could ride the rails and go up……….with a person “having fun/joke” in them…….unsecured…. and…..well we all know the potential could be a loss of life.

Having dealt with Martin Baker, the UK manufacturer and associated other companies on my own ejection seats, 1 which arrived into Australia fully disarmed with no rocket pack or drogue propellant installed, and the other which was only a trainer seat and fully demilled, I take this facebook story as a serious reminder as to how people need to be always aware when handling cockpits and ejection systems.

I do wonder if the people making jokes about the rocket pack as humour would be laughing now if their mates were injured or killed …….instead of sending out a warning notice. It is suggested always treat any Aviation life Support Equipment item unless you know it is 100% safe/secured, as “live” and take care.
This be a flare/gun, a life preserver unit, a parachute or an ejection seat.

People have died in active service working on ejection seats when they thought it was safe.
Wheres the humour there?…………………………….

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By: Moggy C - 22nd November 2014 at 11:51

Looks like the tale is typical Internet woo. But left here (though locked) as a useful caution.

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By: TonyT - 22nd November 2014 at 11:18

Oddly enough the airforces of the world were a bit lax about seats when I was still in, a USA base were moving a gate guardian (that had sat on the gate for over 10 years) indoors to refurb it and as the guy climbed into the cockpit the seat went off killing him… after that there was a worldwide flurry of all airforces to check the smouldering piles of corrosion on their gates and several were found also to still contain live seats….

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By: Junk Collector - 22nd November 2014 at 11:13

The military aren’t perfect and do mess up. I remember a live seat found in a UK museum some years ago, and live parts found in a scrapyard. Disarmed seats can be hazardous as well but not in the same ways as a disarmed seat

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By: spitfireman - 22nd November 2014 at 10:10

Was with it right up to….

this facebook story

I’ll go with ‘battle’/Dave on his one.

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By: battle - 22nd November 2014 at 10:00

Daniel / Phil this is yet to be confirmed/verified please stop scaremongering/commenting with your opinions before any professional conclusion has being reached.

Mods pleads lock/delete this thread until issue has being confirmed.

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By: bravo24 - 22nd November 2014 at 09:44

Out of interest to us all has this comment on fb been verified? Or is it a modern myth. What a/c? Where? When? I doubt it is correct but if so it is of concern!!!

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