October 27, 2012 at 11:50 am
recent YORK PRESS item
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10008369.Airfield_bosses_fined_over_noise/
By: j_jza80 - 28th October 2012 at 15:58
It’s what he does for a living, he was sniffing around the airfield before it was sold by the MOD.
With no Airshow, and extremely restricted use these days, it can only be a matter of time until questions start being asked about the viability of the site.
Building land is in short supply around York, and is very valuable. The site also has great access to the A64, which could also be improved with the added benefit of helping ongoing traffic issues in the area.
By: OllieS - 28th October 2012 at 15:10
I think there would be a problem digging it up, it’s 15ft deep in places as its built on shifting sands…if it was dug up it would wreck the drainage in the whole area, unless you use the worlds largest amount of infill! It’s quite an interesting story about how they built the place in the difficult ground conditions.
By: trumper - 28th October 2012 at 14:36
I have to say i find the noise from the racing cars at Duxford a complete pain,it isn’t a nice noise it’s a high pitched scream,i am just glad i don’t live there when they are doing it –but each to their own.
By: j_jza80 - 28th October 2012 at 10:29
I grew up in Elvington, and the activity at the Airfield was always viewed as an integral, and proud part of life.
Unfortunately, a tiny minority of residents who have moved in near the airfield (most living in houses constructed within the last 20 years) have taken exception to it.
The council should be sued for granting planning permission so close to an active airfield in the first place.
It’s a win win situation for a particular party though. A certain local who profits from the airfield as it is, and is looking to reclaim the runway materials should things go bad.
By: HP111 - 28th October 2012 at 09:36
Believe me they already have and do……
Rob
and there is no getting away from it. Apart from “genuine complaints” (which do arise sometimes), there will always be people who are unsettled in themselves and feel the need to complain about other poeple. The smart thing for an organisation is to be aware of potential problems and to pre-empt or circumvent them in advance. This includes being on the right side of the law and being on speaking terms with the local council etc etc.
By: Pen Pusher - 28th October 2012 at 09:27
Bit like the couple a number of years ago who had bought a house in a village next to RAF Finningley as was. The house suffered from subsidence and the couple demanded compensation from the MOD as they blamed the Vulcan’s, noise from take off apparently, for the subsidence despite the fact that Vulcan’s hadn’t operated from Finningley for over 20 years and of course the subsidence had nothing to do with a coal pit seam running nearby. One of the many stories the CRO used to tell us.
Brian
By: Wyvernfan - 28th October 2012 at 08:18
…but then it’s quieter than a Merlin. Let’s hope no NIMBY’s suddenly arrive in Duxford village and complain about the ‘noise’.
Believe me they already have and do. Take the F1 testing for instance, vital extra income for the airfields continued operation and now only taking place once in a blue moon, but there are those that still like to complain. Indeed one couple who live in the village said it was upsetting their unborn child. Work that one out! :confused:. Maybe they need to talk to the other parents in Duxford and the surrounding villages who have taken their kids in, often free of charge, to watch it and enjoy the spectacle on their doorstep.
Rob
By: CJH - 28th October 2012 at 07:57
Airfield owners Elvington Park Ltd, Elvington Events Ltd, which hold a licence to organise activites on the airfield, and the company secretary and sole director of both companies, John Christopher Hudson, claimed the noise from motor races was not a nuisance and said that, even if it was, they were not responsible because the races were organised by Auto 66 and planning permission allowed them to hold motor sports on the airifield.
a shame as I like bike racing and aircraft at airfields, but undue noise (and unwanted BBQs or people smoking nearby) can make others lives an absolute misery especially on hot days when the windows have to be closed to preserve sanity…but usually compromises can be reached by intelligent reasonable people
however, this sounds like an I don’t give a damn attitude from the Elvington Park companies….and a long running battle with the council over their actions…so any complaint about them is going to be pounced upon in the court….someone in the council’s been upset perhaps and is out for blood ?
By: charliehunt - 28th October 2012 at 06:51
…but then it’s quieter than a Merlin. Let’s hope no NIMBY’s suddenly arrive in Duxford village and complain about the ‘noise’.
Indeed , let’s hope not……:rolleyes:
By: Andy in Beds - 27th October 2012 at 22:33
These people must so delicate I’m surprised they didn’t melt on the hard road to maturity.
Quite frankly they make me sick.
I always make a point of making as much mas much noise as possible with an internal combustion engine.
Anyway, it isn’t noise–it’s a sound–music in fact if it’s set up correctly.
Andy
By: WJ244 - 27th October 2012 at 20:14
Elvington has held car and motorcycle race meetings for a long time so anyone who buys a property near the airfield should expect some noise. Race meetings are only be held on a comparatively small number of weekends each year so the overall disturbance must be pretty minimal. The landowners obviously need to make an income from the site and the most likely alternative would be for the airfield to close and the site turned into an industrial site or housing estate which would undoubtedly increase the overall noise level on a daily basis as well as creating more traffic in the area. The locals need to get real and appreciate that things could be a lot worse. I suspect the local council would be quite happy to see houses or industrial units on the site as it would give them a nice big increase in income from business rates.
We have a rugby field about a quarter mile away. Although there are 2 streets between my home and the rugby field I can still hear the shouting and often make out the offensive language used by some of the spectators on a Sunday morning but it appears that this is generally regarded as acceptable because the noise comes from a rugby field and not an aviation or motorsport facility.I have yet to meet a motorsport or an aviation enthusiast who feels a need to shout and swear while watching an airshow or motorsport event but it seems perfectly acceptable for those who go to watch what are regarded as socially acceptable sports like football and rugby to shout out offensive language and ruin the chances of others enjoying a quiet day without the threat of noise abatement measures – slight case of double standards?
By: Monsun - 27th October 2012 at 19:47
…but then it’s quieter than a Merlin. Let’s hope no NIMBY’s suddenly arrive in Duxford village and complain about the ‘noise’.
By: charliehunt - 27th October 2012 at 19:29
Of course it is – what else?
By: Monsun - 27th October 2012 at 19:26
Don’t worry, it’s a tuned V6, sounds great!
By: charliehunt - 27th October 2012 at 19:21
I have absolutely no doubt that you could!:(
By: Monsun - 27th October 2012 at 17:50
I dare say I could probably wake a few people up in Elvington even at 20mph.
As regards consideration there was none shown to the thousands of racing fans who would like to see more activity at Croft, say perhaps back to the same level of activity there was before our friend bought his property.
By: charliehunt - 27th October 2012 at 17:15
the irony being that they could drive right through Elvington village (which is about 2 miles from the airfield) and the residents would just have to put up with it.
No irony at all. Elvington village is a 20MPH Zone so road cars are unlikely to be a nuisance. If they were, the drivers could be prosecuted under noise abatement laws just as you could if you were caught “flooring it” and creating a public nuisance. The laws are there but how much better it would be if the courtesy of consideration for other people was the watchword.
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th October 2012 at 17:09
Probably not helpful in the overall scheme of things.
By: Monsun - 27th October 2012 at 17:07
It’s usually a very small number of complainants.
Croft Circuit, which had been active since 1964, lost an expensive court case brought on by a local resident and are now heavily restricted on the number of days they can have racing. I drive quite a noisy sports car so take great delight in dropping a gear and flooring it as I pass their house!
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th October 2012 at 17:04
You can smell my BBQ all the way from East Sussex….?!