Emergency Landing of flybe 146. Serious Injurys

RE: Emergency Landing of flybe 146. Serious Injurys

Actually, people keep telling me I look like Harald Brattback ! (lol)

RE: Emergency Landing of flybe 146. Serious Injurys

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 27-12-02 AT 02:51 PM (GMT)]do you look like Charlie Mann?

lol

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It’s not just the Record, Celtic don’t like anymore Bhoy. Chic Young and myself got chucked out of the Parkhead tunnel after the Dundee game the other day cause we represented the BBC, who Mr O’Neill also appears to have fallen out with. Should be OK on Sunday as we’re sub contracted to Celtic TV !

Apologies to all for dragging this off topic for a minute !

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can’t find the article for the exact details, but there was a small report in tuesday’s Daily Record saying that a couple of edinburgh people had been arrested for being drunk on a charter flight from EDI to either Salzburg or Graz (can’t remember exactly), and that the crew, aware of the recent incident involving Ice enroute to Belfast, had made sure they were restrained for landing.

That was basically all it said, so I can’t tell you more.

And Ren, I’m aware of the Record boycott… I never bought it, I picked it up free at gate 19 at GLA on the shuttle to LHR.

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I hadn’t heard that but the one four sick is famed (and heavily restricted) for having problems in icing conditions.

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Where you find that out? What happened?

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this incident was apparently due to Ice.

RE: Emergency Landing of flybe 146. Serious Injurys

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 14-12-02 AT 05:27 PM (GMT)]Going off topic here, but the same idea has been taken up on Guernsey. It is not compulsory; however, students can learn the old Guernsey Patois, which is a great idea. As a it is only the older generation who know Guernsey Norman French, not the younger who only know English and the basic French,so initiative was needed to save our dying language.
It is a shame that the local languages die out, it is a sad sign of changing times. Twenty or so years ago French or Guernsey French would have been the second language after English…now it is Portuguese! The same with the IOM.

Anyway I am proud to say I am one of the few members of the younger generation that can speak the lingo.

RE: Emergency Landing of flybe 146. Serious Injurys

“Ellan Vannin” is Manx Gaelic for “Isle of Man”

“Skiaynin Vannin” used to be painted on the side of old Manx Airlines aircraft. They are trying to revive the language over here – it’s mandatory at school and you get all sorts of grants and subsidies for encouraging it (a la Manx Airlines).

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 13-12-02 AT 07:30 PM (GMT)]It is SOP (standard operating procedure) in my company to make a PA at the beginning of the cruise and again just before descent. On a night flight I always advise passengers in my first PA if they are planning to sleep to leave the seatbelt fastened over the top of the blanket so that if the seatbelt sign goes on the cabin crew can check they are secure without having to rouse them to find out.

Mongu – excuse my ignorance but your suffix *** Ellan Vannin *** – is this the phrase that you have to say for luck when crossing that bridge? Sorry for going off topic.

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Good explanation wysiwyg.

Whenenver I have had a long night flight on BA, they always warn about the risk of being woken if your seat belt cannot obviously be seen. This is over maybe 4-5 hours of “sleep” time so the seatbelt signhs are off.

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Okey dokey, time for some seatbelt details here.

Quote Mongu – ‘It is semi-mandatory though. Whenever you are asleep on long haul, you are woken unless the cabin crew can spot your seat belt over your blanket.’

If any cabin crew are doing this when the seatbelt sign is off you are perfectly in your rights to tell them where to get off. They are 100% right if the signs are on though.

Quote LukeEGTE – ‘…but it confuses me why when the seatbelt signs are turned off, you hear the clicking of so many seat belts being unfastened. I mean, having your seatbelt loosely fastened isn’t excacly painful, infact I don’t even notice it.’

Fully agree. I think some people just like to do the opposite of anything they are forced to do.

AndrewM – I’m sure an earlier (now edited) post said about leaving the seatbelt signs on all the time. While this is sensible on very short flights it becomes problematic on longer ones. There will always be some upstart who will start harking on about false imprisonment! It is a fact of life that a human being needs to relieve themselves once in a while so the seatbelt signs need to have an off period to accommodate this. If we left the signs on all the time and just allowed people to get up to the loo at their own discretion we would lose any element of control. Now I expect most people would say that they are a big boy now and can make up their own mind when it is safe for them to go to the toilet. What they never think about is that while they may be prepared to accept the responsibility for falling over and hurting themselves on the way when it gets turbulent, what about the other people they fall on and injure? Do those people sue the passenger? No they sue the airline.

Turbulence (aspecially CAT-clear air turbulence) is a difficult thing to predict and we are obliged to err on the side of caution. We don’t try to antagonise the passengers with the use of the seatbelt sign despite what some people think. It mostly can’t be seen, so the answer to the constantly asked question ‘how long will it last?’ is nearly always ‘how long is a piece of string?’.

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It is semi-mandatory though.

Whenever you are asleep on long haul, you are woken unless the cabin crew can spot your seat belt over your blanket.

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I think it should be made mandatory to have it fastened at all times even just loosly during the cruise. Would save people being hurt!

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A very good point there, dan330. Whenever I fly, I always keep my seat belt fastened whenever I am seated. Even in the cruise with the seat belt signs off. Airlines do reccomend this but it confuses me why when the seastbelt signs are turmned off, you hear the clicking of so many seat belts being unfastened. I mean, having your seatbelt loosely fastened isn’t excacly painfull, infact I don’t even notice it. Please keep your seatbelt fastened during all stages of flight.

LECTURE OVER

Regards

Luke

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An other good reason to remain with the seat belt fasten 🙁

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Sounds like it hit some bad turbulence.

Something similar happened once when I was coming back from Malta on a Britannia 767 apparently (I slept through the whole thing, was only about 2 or 3 though). Anyway, we suddenly dropped, everyones drinks went everywhere and anyone who didn’t have a seat belt on hit the ceiling. A stewardess was burnt quite badly after a trolley hit her.
This sort of thing happens, always keep your belt on when your seated, even if its not very tight!!

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/2570583.stm

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1 broken leg and 2 minor injuries – not exactly life threatening but still a bit of a bugger for those involved

also look what appeared on the AAIB website today..
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AAIB Bulletin No: 12/2002 Ref: EW/G2002/07/15 Category: 1.1
Aircraft Type and Registration: BAe.146-200, G-JEAX
No & Type of Engines: 4 Lycoming ALF502R-5 turbofan engines
Year of Manufacture: 1989

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Thanks for the update