January 14, 2004 at 4:40 pm
Hi,
On hyperscale.com there is a model of Spitfire EN830 in the “what’s new” section of the 12th of January.
EN830 was captured on Jersey after the pilot made a forced landing there, thinking it was the Isle of Wight.
The Germans installed a DB605 engine in it and found it a delight to fly.
The captured pilot was PO Scheidhauer of the Free French Air Force. He took part in the Great Escape and was recaptured and executed on the 29th of March 1944.
The name Scheidhauer suggests that he was from the “Alsace” part of France and thus when he was recaptured in Saarbrucken, he was quite close to home.
🙁
Best regards, Transall.
By: warbirdUK - 17th January 2004 at 12:33
Originally posted by Roger S
Wouldn’t mind to see a captured Luftwaffe Spitfire in the airshow circuit. Guess I am the only one, or not?:D
BW Roger
Maybe MK732 ?? but there again It’s not seen in the airshow circuit any more is it??
Does anyone know how it is getting on now it’s been captured by The Royal Netherlands Historical Flight?
Cheers…………
By: JDK - 17th January 2004 at 12:11
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting those pics. I talked to the guy who’d made the models and I was sure they weren’t a wind up, but I’d never seen the evidence before.
Regarding the airborne Italian job, getting the gold, easy – it’s the flying in through the rear cargo doors of a Argossy that would be tricky!:p
Cheers
James
By: Mark12 - 17th January 2004 at 09:10
Spanish Spitfire
Roger,
quotes:-
‘yes, they had 1 and it only made 1 flight but it was a hell of a good looker’
‘The colours were something like this’
So can you please tell us Roger, is this ‘good looker’ hearsay or have you actually seen a photograph of it?
Mark
By: MK959 - 16th January 2004 at 21:32
Dan,
Meknes is in Morocco 😉
By: Dan Johnson - 16th January 2004 at 21:01
Originally posted by JDK
Talking about models of Spitfires, I saw these in 1994 at the Chilterns Model show at Old Warden.IIRC, they were a French aerobatic team in North Africa – yes, it was real, no, I don’t have the details.
Fancy getting 3 preserved Spits into these colours – Smokewinders on the wingtips?
Found a couple photos of this crowd in a small book called:
Les “Spitfire” Fancais, by Claude Pierquet.
It’s in French and I don’t read French, but they were called “Patrouille Tricolore” and were flying the 3 Spitfire IXs from Meknes in 1947.
No clue on where Meknes is 🙂
Dan
By: EHVB - 16th January 2004 at 19:12
Ass you will understand, I have also nothing against a Spanish Mitchell in the circuit. BW Roger
By: EHVB - 16th January 2004 at 19:10
The colours were something like this. I understood it made one succesfull flight, but on finals it flew into a lorry or a train. BW Roger
By: DazDaMan - 16th January 2004 at 18:04
Spanish Spitfire?? 😮
By: Mark12 - 16th January 2004 at 17:54
Roger,
What an intriguing last post that sent me diving for my copy of ‘Spitfire International’.
Four possibilities – all non intentional landings in Spain and interned.
Quote: ‘Hell of a Good Looker’
This sort of suggests that you have seen a photo?
Can you tell us more?
Mark
By: EHVB - 16th January 2004 at 17:20
Yeah, that realy would be a great sight. Wouldn’t mind a Spanish Spitfire either (yes, they had 1 and it only made 1 flight but it was a hell of a good looker). BW Roger
By: Mark12 - 16th January 2004 at 17:14
Roger,
……….and neither would I.
Tired of the pink?
How about this for Mk XI PL965?
Controversial?
Mark
By: EHVB - 16th January 2004 at 16:09
Wouldn’t mind to see a captured Luftwaffe Spitfire in the airshow circuit. Guess I am the only one, or not?:D
BW Roger
By: von Perthes - 16th January 2004 at 13:58
‘You’re only supposed to blow the bloody bomb doors off’
By: DazDaMan - 16th January 2004 at 12:35
Anyone notice the Airfix Spitfire 1a in there? (1/72 scale)
By: EN830 - 16th January 2004 at 12:35
It proved to be inferior to a similarly engined 109. What the Germans were trying to prove is not sure, the fact that they had to make so many alterations to the electrics, cooling etc… to substitute the DB Engine made the results irrelevant. It proved to be quicker in the climb when compared to a 109, but this was put down to the lack of armament..
By: DazDaMan - 15th January 2004 at 19:11
They are, but I was going along the lines of having three almost identical Spitfires, hence three Griffon-engined aircraft (two bubble canopies, one high-back?)
By: Ant.H - 15th January 2004 at 19:06
“TFC could get another Griffon Spit “
It could be my eyesight fooling me,but aren’t those models of Merlin-powered Mk.IX’s??
By: EN830 - 15th January 2004 at 18:20
Re: EN830:a sad Spitfire
Originally posted by Transall
The name Scheidhauer suggests that he was from the “Alsace” part of France and thus when he was recaptured in Saarbrucken, he was quite close to home.
🙁Best regards, Transall.
Actually he was a long way from home, his family came from Brest, though he was born in the Alsace region, his Father was stationed their with the French army. Bushell and Scheidhauer travelled to Saarbrucken in the vain hope of getting help and transportation to Paris and from there onto North West France.
This year is the 60th anniversary of the Great Escape, keep an eye out on Channel 5, Windfall Films are in the process of making a programme on the Escape which is due to go out at the end of March.
By: EN830 - 15th January 2004 at 18:15
Hey I’m nearly as famous as the goat boy.
That picture was taken in my youth, I’m much more mature now 😉
By: DazDaMan - 15th January 2004 at 18:12
“This is the aircraft preservation society…”
Hmm… doesn’t have the same ring to it 😉