July 18, 2004 at 6:13 pm
A few weeks ago i took a trip to the museum next door to Gatwick. Noticed this engine, a new thing on display for 2004. Though the only thing is there was no info anywhere about it, and no-one really on hand to ask about it. Only clues i got were some dark blue engine cowlings laying around near by (which you can just about see in the background), telling me that it has more than likely come from a British Airways aircraft. My question though is:
What type of engine is it, and what aircraft would it have most likely been taken from?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. 🙂
By: Papa Lima - 20th July 2004 at 19:59
(Sigh)
Since I shall be at Gatwick on 27 July ready for my flight next day to Minneapolis, it looks as if I’ll have to visit this museum and find out myself!
Could someone please indicate how to get there from Gatwick airport by public transport?
By: GZYL - 20th July 2004 at 19:18
I think it’s a CF6… would be great if we could find someone to confirm it!
By: Papa Lima - 20th July 2004 at 19:17
post #3 says “smaller than a 6 ft man’s height”, i.e. less than 72 in. That should rule out the CF6.
I just wish someone closer than me could go and look at the data plate, which must still be riveted to it somewhere!
By: GZYL - 20th July 2004 at 18:55
“I can prove it’s a PW2000 Series engine, right down the the number of blades ont he compressor fan…and the ring that connects the blades togeter”
I still disagree… I’m sticking with my CF6 guess…. in your pic there are 36 blades on the fan, in the initial pic there are 38. Also in your pic, there are only 6 screws on the hub, on the initial pic there are 12. I’ve looked at a pic of a CF6, which has 38 blades and 12 screws. Damn I sound boring!!
The ring which connects the blades together as you say… doesn;t connect the blades together by the way. It is a protrusion from the front and back of each blade. They touch, but in no way are the blades connected together… the blades need to be able to flex when in use, so they are not connected.
By: Papa Lima - 19th July 2004 at 22:51
I believe the fan tip speed is about Mach 1.5, according to my Bill Gunston jet engine book.
By: Jeanske_SN - 19th July 2004 at 22:31
Sorry for going off topic, but I’ve always wondered how much RPM the front fan disk reaches on TO power, and if the tips go supersonic?
By: Papa Lima - 19th July 2004 at 22:04
You may be right – the PW2000 series fan diameter is 78.5 in and here is a cutaway from the PW web site
By: Ren Frew - 19th July 2004 at 21:29
I think it’s the remains of the Top Gear Citroen 2CV after the crew applied reverse thrust following the shoot the other week ? :p
By: Papa Lima - 19th July 2004 at 19:14
I would agree with the CF-6 except that if the size is less than 6 ft diameter as stated in post #3, it would make it too small to be a CF-6, which has a fan diameter of 86.4 in. I am absolutely certain it’s a General Electric product, anyway!
By: GZYL - 19th July 2004 at 19:06
My guess is a CF-6. I have seen pictures of CF-6’s with the blunt spinner. For one thing it’s definitely not a RR product, on the fan blades there are protrusions from the front and back faces. this is to stop the blades from striking each other. RR don’t use these, they use wide chord blades instead.
By: Bmused55 - 18th July 2004 at 21:59
The rubber tip is a no go item if it is missing IIRC! If ice builds up on the tip of the spinner the rubber vibrates due to the imbalance and throws the ice off before it gets too big.
thats what I meant
By: Pablo - 18th July 2004 at 21:12
I doubt it’s from a DC10. Only the Dc10-40 had JT9Ds and these were only operated by JAL and Northwest. BA(ie. BCAL) Dc10s had CF6 engines..
Think you’re right on the engine type, but not the a/c. Could it be the CF6 from a DC10-30 then?
By: dc10fan - 18th July 2004 at 21:03
I doubt it’s from a DC10. Only the Dc10-40 had JT9Ds and these were only operated by JAL and Northwest. BA(ie. BCAL) Dc10s had CF6 engines..
By: wysiwyg - 18th July 2004 at 20:57
The rubber tip is a no go item if it is missing IIRC! If ice builds up on the tip of the spinner the rubber vibrates due to the imbalance and throws the ice off before it gets too big.
By: Bmused55 - 18th July 2004 at 20:36
Seems the 211 and 500 both have that rubber tip on the spinner that is designed to prevent ice build up.
By: Bmused55 - 18th July 2004 at 20:34
An RR design trait then?
By: Bmused55 - 18th July 2004 at 20:20
The 211 certainly does.
I’m surprised you didn’t know that…. having sat on 2 of them for 4 years!
By: wysiwyg - 18th July 2004 at 20:13
I may be wrong but I think RR always have pointy spinners. Can anyone confirm?
By: Bmused55 - 18th July 2004 at 19:47
I think pablo has it.
The cowling on that dc-10 fits the shape of that engine.