August 5, 2004 at 11:51 pm
This question has been bothering me for a while.
The A318-21 both have the same engines and wing area. How is this possible? The logic in that is that the A318 accelerates very quickly on take off and is very powerful, and will easily reach high cruise altitudes and speeds while the A321 will have more “trouble” in doing so.
Now, we can’t change the efficiency of a wing in full flight. But we can adjust the engines. Do the A318’s produce less thrust than they are able to? For example a 318 taking off at 95% of it’s thrust would be 70% on the 321?
This happens on all sorts of aircrft. The 767-200-300-400 all use nearly the same engines. The 777 seems an exception to this. But the 757 and 737’s have it as well. Same engines, same wing area. BUT the MTOW’s differs depending on the aircraft’s size.
Does all this mean that the performance on aircraft types differ in the different sorts of series?
I hope you understood. Please explain me soon!
By: Bhoy - 9th August 2004 at 20:21
don’t have figures for the 318 to hand, but the LX timetable lists specs for their aircraft and the engine power on their 32S aircraft is as follows…
A321-111 CFM56-5B1-2 14’000kg thrust per engine
A320-214 CFM56-5B4-2 12’000kg thrust per engine
A319-112 CFM56-5B5-2 10’000kg thrust per engine
So you can see there’s quite a range in regards to the thrust output of engines on the 320 Family aircraft.
By: LBARULES - 6th August 2004 at 16:50
The 321 came before the 318.
By: coanda - 6th August 2004 at 12:16
which came first the 318 or the 321??
I expect you’ll find that there are some thrust limits so as not to too easily get to vne or through the mach limiting speed(which can be very close to cruise speed) or somthing like that.
you can be sure that both are adequate for their job.
By: Bmused55 - 6th August 2004 at 09:21
This question has been bothering me for a while.
The A318-21 both have the same engines and wing area. How is this possible? The logic in that is that the A318 accelerates very quickly on take off and is very powerful, and will easily reach high cruise altitudes and speeds while the A321 will have more “trouble” in doing so.
Now, we can’t change the efficiency of a wing in full flight. But we can adjust the engines. Do the A318’s produce less thrust than they are able to? For example a 318 taking off at 95% of it’s thrust would be 70% on the 321?
This happens on all sorts of aircrft. The 767-200-300-400 all use nearly the same engines. The 777 seems an exception to this. But the 757 and 737’s have it as well. Same engines, same wing area. BUT the MTOW’s differs depending on the aircraft’s size.
Does all this mean that the performance on aircraft types differ in the different sorts of series?
I hope you understood. Please explain me soon!
The 737 have different wings depending on their generation.
The 100 and 200s have different wings and engines than the 3-500’s.
THe 600-900 range have newer wings and engines.
I also beleive the 600 has a slightly larger wing that the rest of the NG group.