Enough to make your blood boil

To my mind causing wilful pain to any sentient animal is abhorrent. There is no justification for it under any circumstances.

As far as I am aware, we don’t get a choice to put someone who is suffering to ‘sleep’.

Not per se, but death is encouraged and allowed every single day in hospitals. The withdrawal of antibiotic cover from a 90 year old pneumonia sufferer is effectively a death sentence as is a DNR order. The withdrawal of nutritional supplements and medications is also a way of putting someone to sleep, though without the dignity of the person having either the choice of timing or methodology.

However, back on topic, (I think) Grey Area was right, exsanguination is not the method of choice most of us would use to end a life and one can only wonder why it is acceptable to use such methods on the grounds of Religion.

Cruelty to animals, cruelty for the simple sake of cruelty, is abhorrent to all but the tiniest minority, but how can we ever expect to stop it when we as mankind remain capable of and content to commit the most cruellest acts upon each other?

Regards,

kev35

As far as I am aware, we don’t get a choice to put someone who is suffering to ‘sleep’.

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actualy there is an ever growing campaign for it and if in the position to afford it there is no law stopping you going to dignitas

if i was at the point of having no life quality and daily unbearable pain i hope someone would do it for me !!

but that is of course off topic

and we are failing to reccognise my point i don’t feel killing for food is cruel in any form

if you hang a chicken upside down by its feet on a production line to go in to be stunned by an electric charge in a water bath , you can bet your bottom dollar it isn’t that thick that it hasn’t worked out that there’s some bad s**t comming up !!

death is death wichever way you pretend to tidy it up !!

but it is to feed people

however, intended cruelty to an animal just for kicks as the OP posted is a whole difrent matter

and as many have quite correctly said i prey they get thier just deserts !!

As far as I am aware, we don’t get a choice to put someone who is suffering to ‘sleep’.

I must admit, watching the video above turned my stomach.

and that was the difrence i was trying to point out !!

however an animal is killed for food the end result is the same it is dead for food !!

at the end of the day with a sharp knife and done quickly i don’t see that much difrence to killing in any of its forms

but the huge overwhelming difrence in the O.P was cruelty done just for fun it is a world appart

i always find the argument of animal suffering very humourous from people that will put a dog to sleep if it is terminaly ill yet will watch a human fight to the bitter end !!

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Going off topic a little chaps, aren’t we? Keep to it, or you know the score 😉

Ritual slaughter is an unpleasant business, and let’s not pretend that the ritual slaughter prescribed by Religion A is in any way less unpleasant than that prescribed by Religion B.

Only someone with an agenda would try to make such a claim, and we can discount that sort of twaddle from the outset.

If animals must be slaughtered for meat – and, until such a time as the whole world turns vegetarian, they must – then it has to be done quickly, cleanly and with the minimum of stress and suffering for the animal.

Anything less would constitute wilful cruelty.

IMHO, of course.

Nobody seems to complain and not a word about it from the RSPCA, Animal Defenders or any other animal welfare organisations! I believe it is all down to trying avoid upsetting the Muslim minority!

Some links you might like to check out:

http://www.viva.org.uk/campaigns/ritual_slaughter/index.htm

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/CAMPAIGNS/slaughter/ALL///

So some animal organisations do campaign against slaughter, and that includes ritual slaughter.

lol !! you are so right but i was giving some the benefit of the doubt , but i haven’t visited burger king for a while !!

i honestly do believe in ten to twenty years time some won’t be able to make the connection between a burger and cattle !!

That is so nine years ago!

Damn!

Beaten to the draw by Kev. 🙁

Ten to twenty years? It depends where you get your burger from surely?

Regards,

kev35

in factory killing in chickens it is not always fully guaranteed the head comes into contact with the water before the throat is cut !!

as i say the end result is the same

i just find it odd the actual death is shrugged off

but if there seems to be a little pain for a split seccond or few secconds all hell breaks loose

i have no qualms about breaking a birds kneck for the table or whacking a fish round the back of the head

the trouble is most folks contact with where thier food comes from nowadays is sainsburys or tescos et al

i honestly do believe in ten to twenty years time some won’t be able to make the connection between a burger and cattle !!

Because homo sapiens (and there’s a laugh in itself) is not a very nice animal at all.

Cigarette burns may have caused sick dog’s wounds

Teignmouth youths sentenced for microwave cat cruelty

…and the list can go on and on, it is just sickening.

Not only is my dog a mans best friend, she has to be one of the best treated! How people can inflict such pain on animals, or humans boggles my mind.

Before you get all steamed up about the Muslim (Halal) way of killing animals, you might want to familiarize yourself with the Kosher way as well.

Halal or Kosher, in reality it makes damn-all difference to the sheep, goat or chicken being exsanguinated.

But since when did blind prejudice ever have anything to do with reality?

wichever way you look at it death is pretty final wether prettied up or not !!

and the difrence is it is for a reason food !!

what i cannot stand is needless cruelty for crueltys sake

I agree that the reasopn is for food but why make the animals suffer more than they need to? Surely their half-baked way off slaughtering them is unnecessary cruelty!

Before you get all steamed up about the Muslim (Halal) way of killing animals, you might want to familiarize yourself with the Kosher way as well.

wichever way you look at it death is pretty final wether prettied up or not !!

and the difrence is it is for a reason food !!

what i cannot stand is needless cruelty for crueltys sake

I totally agree with everything that has been said.

What also really annoys me is the ritual slaughter of animals. It is the British way to stun them first in order that they feel no pain.

However the Muslim way is to hang them upside down and slit their throats without any stunning whatsover, so that the animals die in agony!

I find it very strange that they can get away with it in this country. Nobody seems to complain and not a word about it from the RSPCA, Animal Defenders or any other animal welfare organisations! I believe it is all down to trying avoid upsetting the Muslim minority!