ETPS- disposing of Andover and 1-11?

I take it that Duxford would not be interested in a HS748 Andover as it would not fit into their airliner collection but a civilian example should be represented.

I take it that Duxford would not be interested in a HS748 Andover as it would not fit into their airliner collection but a civilian example should be represented.

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How many Andovers are in a good home? It was good to see her at Waddington this year. I have never been lucky enough to see one fly.

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How many Andovers are in a good home? It was good to see her at Waddington this year. I have never been lucky enough to see one fly.

The Dart in the Andover (780) is significantly noisier than the 748, which I found to be reasonably quiet in comparison.

In fact I remember complaining how useless our ear defenders were at the time. An H & S type was summoned, with a meter, to record the sound during start up. He asked me to give him a hand with his recording, he said ok when its starts I will ask you to do xyz. I said believe me you can ask me but I won’t hear anything, not standing in front of one of those.

The noise took him so much by surprise that he dropped his machine and broke it. We didn’t see him again.

We didn’t get any new ear defenders either.

The Dart in the Andover (780) is significantly noisier than the 748, which I found to be reasonably quiet in comparison.

In fact I remember complaining how useless our ear defenders were at the time. An H & S type was summoned, with a meter, to record the sound during start up. He asked me to give him a hand with his recording, he said ok when its starts I will ask you to do xyz. I said believe me you can ask me but I won’t hear anything, not standing in front of one of those.

The noise took him so much by surprise that he dropped his machine and broke it. We didn’t see him again.

We didn’t get any new ear defenders either.

I’ll miss the Andover but not its screaming Darts outside my office window.

What! They make lovely sound, possibly my favourite engine noise!
Just thinking out aloud, once this (these?) aircraft is retired will that be the end of the good old Dart in active duty aswel?

It would be great to see both of these great aircraft survive, they must be amongst the best examples of their types around, however JT442 is probably, sadly, correct in what he says.

Edit, just thought that there’s probably a still a few F-27s about!

I’ll miss the Andover but not its screaming Darts outside my office window.

What! They make lovely sound, possibly my favourite engine noise!
Just thinking out aloud, once this (these?) aircraft is retired will that be the end of the good old Dart in active duty aswel?

It would be great to see both of these great aircraft survive, they must be amongst the best examples of their types around, however JT442 is probably, sadly, correct in what he says.

Edit, just thought that there’s probably a still a few F-27s about!

I’ll miss the Andover but not its screaming Darts outside my office window.

Are XS596 & XS646 still flying?

I’ll miss the Andover but not its screaming Darts outside my office window.

Are XS596 & XS646 still flying?

I don’t think the 1-11 will survive. Where could take it? Duxford already have one, and its not really relevant for the few museums with runways… East Midlands aside…

I don’t think the 1-11 will survive. Where could take it? Duxford already have one, and its not really relevant for the few museums with runways… East Midlands aside…

The Dak is brought in to make the baby Test Pilots sweat. :diablo:
For most of them the idea of flying anything without a nose wheel will be novel, as will mixture control, CS props, (Relatively) poor brakes etc.
I’ll miss the Andover but not its screaming Darts outside my office window.

The Dak is brought in to make the baby Test Pilots sweat. :diablo:
For most of them the idea of flying anything without a nose wheel will be novel, as will mixture control, CS props, (Relatively) poor brakes etc.
I’ll miss the Andover but not its screaming Darts outside my office window.

I thought the 748 was a Dakota replacement, not the other way round!

I thought the 748 was a Dakota replacement, not the other way round!

Richard

The answer to your question is yes. The Air Atlantque DC-3 was G-AMRA and the ETPS have recently been using HHAs Hunter T-8B XF995.

Freebird :diablo:

Richard

The answer to your question is yes. The Air Atlantque DC-3 was G-AMRA and the ETPS have recently been using HHAs Hunter T-8B XF995.

Freebird :diablo:

I guess it was inevitable that the time would come when these were retired, more modern aircraft can do the same job at much less cost. My personal plea is that the Andover finds a good home in a museum painted in the two tone brown paint scheme they wore when in squadron service.
Incidentally while I was at Old Sarum yesterday a Dakota was doing circuits at Boscombe, looked like a Air Atlantique one. Do ETPS use one in their sylabus?

Richard

I guess it was inevitable that the time would come when these were retired, more modern aircraft can do the same job at much less cost. My personal plea is that the Andover finds a good home in a museum painted in the two tone brown paint scheme they wore when in squadron service.
Incidentally while I was at Old Sarum yesterday a Dakota was doing circuits at Boscombe, looked like a Air Atlantique one. Do ETPS use one in their sylabus?

Richard