Everyone who drives should watch this

Hi All,
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Geoff.

They have…..but they are mainly much safer for those ‘behind the wheel’!

If mobile use is now the leading cause of death at the wheel then I can only assume it is because cars and roads have become much safer over time.

Without wishing to throw another scarecrow into the discussion, using your Primark theory, perhaps those that insist on using their mobile while driving. also flout other traffic “laws” such as speeding, not wearing a belt, ignoring give way signs/rules, driving under the influence, no insurance, et al?
While they may be law abiding citizens outside the kingdom of their own vehicle, once ensconced within the metal & glass walls of their mobile castles, no “plod or pleb” is going to dictate to them what they can or cannot do…

I am also just thinking out loud…

‘Mobile use is now the leading cause of death behind the wheel.’

That is an interesting statistic in itself.

I think there might be a ‘Primark argument’ in force with people that phone and drive. Everybody knows Primark goods are stitched together by children in the third world, but people still do it. You could probably sit all those offender drivers down in a test centre somewhere and get them to display remorse until the cows came home, but give them a few weeks and they would be back at it. Maybe this can be lumped in as a tragedy of the commons scenario. Using their logic, if it were just me that drove whilst having a phone conversation then all would be good, it is those other more feckless drivers that will have the accident.

The way I see it I’m an oddity because I turn my phone off at night. People live vicariously through their phones and we currently have a work place culture that makes you feel like you must be available at all times.

I’m thinking aloud here.

@ #15 – wrong thread 🙂

Not “hysterical” at all. No straw in sight. Relevant to the topic in my very ‘umble opinion.
Mobile phone use while driving use doesn’t seem to have reduced – I still see loads of people driving around with phones to their ears. Local roads, dual carriageways, motorways – doesn’t matter, people still take the chance to make/take that call or text/tweet. The law is in place to prohibit the use of mobiles yet people ignore it. Maybe they don’t think the law applies to them or maybe they do really think their right to make/take a phone call while at the wheel of a vehicle, is more important than the lives of other road users. Why else do people still do it? An arrogance that they are above the law? They’ll take the risk because there are no cops about? Others right to a life is less important than nattering to your partner/boss/mate?

Me, I’d increase the penalties to £1000 on the spot fine and 9 points – if you lose your licence because of previously awarded points, tough sh!t – lose your job, tough titty. You didn’t have to make/take that call. And if it was so important, you could have parked up to do it….

BTW, “panties” are nice and straight and comfortable. Thanks…

I expect there will be some who claim it is their right to have the freedom to use their phone while driving…..

A somewhat hysterical post. I saw people getting their panties in a wad over ‘strawmen’ arguments last week. With this in mind, I’m assuming you are refering to my seat belt thread and therefore I can only conclude that this is a strawman argument you are presenting here. The notion that anybody would argue that it is their right to use their phone while driving is absurd, so you rightly ridicule it. The problem is that you are trying to use this obvious ridicule to discredit any argument made in the seat belt thread, which I see as a far less cut and dry issue. A few people over there seem to lack the critical faculties to get past the ‘but its common sense mate’ end of the argument spectrum, but I don’t see that as a reason to bitch about it tirelessly in unrelated threads.

Now, if driving without a seat belt somehow distracted the driver enough that they might kill a 3rd party then your argument would make some sense.

Having considered the various exchanges here I have not yet read a convincing argument that the act of not wearing a seat belt does not potentially impact on others. In fact very few things if any operate in complete isolation in the normal course of daily life.

And is there not a sense of the illogical in resenting the imposition of something which is supported and practised regardless?

Then he’d miss all my commonsense and balanced arguments! 😀

Careful Bob, you could end up being ignored by John if you continue being ‘wrong’!

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Having, over a period of time, read many of your contributions, I got the impression that much more than some, you were rather full of commonsense and balanced argument.

It seems I was wrong. You still haven’t got it – have you ?

That’s Japanese cinemas for you. At my local independent cinema we are politely ask to switch them off before the feature starts.

Errrr, that was part of the ‘experiment’ – they sent a mass text to all the phones in the cinema…

I realise that, but it also shows apart from the obvious distraction regarding driving, the lack of consideration for others when supposedly watching a film, in truth the experiment should have failed if phones had been switched off.

I expect there will be some who claim it is their right to have the freedom to use their phone while driving…..

Maybe, Bob, but certainly no member of this forum.

Yup, so they all stopped concentrating on the film of the road, hence the crash and getting the point over.

Errrr, that was part of the ‘experiment’ – they sent a mass text to all the phones in the cinema…

Really does get across the point.

The driving point should get across, hopefully, the other dismaying sight is one of so many reaching for their phones while supposedly watching a film.

VICTOR t. having been on a Speed awareness” course last July, mobile phones were mentioned as a possible cause of a large number of RTAs, but does this advert not sublimingly advocate the use of Hands Free mobile phones within your car, but which is also a distraction?.
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