F-100 and Mystere IV

Interesting, cheers for that! We’re many other European aircraft ordered under similar arrangements? (Sorry for thread drift)

The Mysteres were ordered for the French AF with backing from the US, when the Fench AF were finished with them they had to be handed over to the Americans. This was done by delivering them to a USAF base in the UK. Not wanting to bother transporting them Stateside, the USAF tried a number of ways of getting rid of them, including loaning them out to UK museums, or in the Spadeadam case letting them be used as decoys.

Why are there so many Mystere IV’s at Spadeadam? Seems a little strange to me that all these French aircraft are at a UK range

At the behest of the IWM themselves, not the NMUSAF.

And they are not going to the USAF but the Museum, a separate entity in the same way that the RAF Museum is not the same thing as the RAF. I know that the F-35 programme is suffering delays, but I don’t think that the USAF are quite that desperate!

T-33 and F-100 being prepared for return to USAF and an uncertain future.

Yeesh. That’s not happy reading, bearing in mind the great restoration done to the F-100 and T-33 and what’s occurred recently.

I must have missed that – what’s happened?

Ah yes, I’d forgotten about the Hunter (funded by the US under MDAP, the Mutual Defence Assistance Programme)

According to a copy of the list I have the following are owned by the NMUSAF and on loan to the IWM

AIRCRAFT, A‐10A, 77‐0259
AIRCRAFT, F‐100D, 54‐2165
AIRCRAFT, F‐111E, 67‐0120
AIRCRAFT, F‐15A, 76‐0020
AIRCRAFT, HUNTER MK 6, XE627
AIRCRAFT, SR‐71A, 61‐7962
AIRCRAFT, T‐33A, 51‐4286
AIRCRAFT, U‐2CT, 56‐6692

Yeesh. That’s not happy reading, bearing in mind the great restoration done to the F-100 and T-33 and what’s occurred recently.

According to a copy of the list I have the following are owned by the NMUSAF and on loan to the IWM

AIRCRAFT, A‐10A, 77‐0259
AIRCRAFT, F‐100D, 54‐2165
AIRCRAFT, F‐111E, 67‐0120
AIRCRAFT, F‐15A, 76‐0020
AIRCRAFT, HUNTER MK 6, XE627
AIRCRAFT, SR‐71A, 61‐7962
AIRCRAFT, T‐33A, 51‐4286
AIRCRAFT, U‐2CT, 56‐6692

I believe the B-52 is owned by the RAF Museum, and was part of a trade for 3 Vulcans that went to museums in the US. I’m pretty sure that the SR-71 is also on loan from the NMUSAF. There used to be a list on the NMUSAF website of all the aircraft in their loan program, but it seems to have been removed now.

I really don’t understand how it doesn’t fit in with the Huey, B52 or Phantom…

I think the latter are owned by IWM, whereas the F-100 and T-33 are on loan from NMUSAF. I may be wrong however…

I really don’t understand how it doesn’t fit in with the Huey, B52 or Phantom…

Sadly the Duxford F-100 will not be there long now…

Hi all

I really I am just looking for a list of airframes that survive in the UK at the present moment.

Thanks

Rich

Courtesy of Wolverhampton Aviation Group’s on-line searchable database….

Search Results – Type : NA Super Sabre
223-37 42157 F-100D 11-ML, ex AdlA, USAF Museum, restoration Sunderland Museum Sep 2015
223-43 42163 F-100D HA, wears ’54-005′, ex AdlA, USAF Museum Dumfries, Dumfries and Galloway Nov 2015
223-54 42174 F-100D SM, ex AdlA Museum, outside Baginton – Midland Air Museum Jan 2016
223-103 42223 F-100D Ex AdlA, USAF Museum, outside Newark – Museum Sep 2014
223-45 54-2165 F-100D VM, 165, ex USAF Museum, inside Duxford Nov 2014
223-76 54-2196 F-100D 42196, ex USAF, Skyblazers marks Museum, outside Flixton Jul 2015
223-92 54-2212 F-100D FW-000, ‘63000’, ex USAF, 20 TFW marks Preserved Croughton Jul 2015
223-149 54-2269 F-100D A2, FW-319, ‘63319’, ex USAF Preserved Lakenheath Sep 2015
243-214 56-3938 F-100F 11-MU, 63938, ex USAF Museum Headcorn airfield Apr 2014

Search Results – Type : Dassault Mystere IV
c/n Serial Mark Code Current Unit Current Location Last Noted
121 121 A Ex AdlA Museum Norwich – Museum Jul 2015
139 139 A 8-MR, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
146 146 A 8-MC, ex AdlA Museum Sunderland Museum Sep 2015
180 180 A 9, 8-NB, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
184 184 A 8-NU, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
207 207 A AC4, 6, 8-NS, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
282 282 A AC3, 8-NW, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
318 318 A 8-NY, ex AdlA Museum Dumfries, Dumfries and Galloway Nov 2015
319 319 A 8-ND, ex AdlA Preserved Andrewsfield Dec 2015
61 61 A AC2, 63, 8-MI, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
64 64 A AC1, 8-NO, ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
70 70 A Ex AdlA Museum, outside Baginton – Midland Air Museum Jan 2016
79 79 A 2-EG, ex AdlA Museum, outside Flixton Jul 2015
81 81 A Ex AdlA Range Target Spadeadam Apr 2014
83 83 A 8-MS, ex AdlA Museum, outside Newark – Museum Sep 2014
84 84 A 8-NF, ex AdlA Museum Headcorn airfield Apr 2014
85 85 A 8-MV, ex AdlA Preserved Bruntingthorpe May 2015

Are there still Mysteres at Lakenheath? I remember there were 6 or 8 back in the ’80s, but ISTR they all got the chop.

Thanks guys, thats great

Rich

If you haven’t already, you could consult Ken Ellis’s “Wrecks & Relics”.

The index in the current edition (24th) lists 9 locations for F-100s and 9 (including Spadeham) for Mystere IVs.

25th edition should be out soon?

Roger Smith.

Depends on whether you are also including the ones on the range at Spadeadam in Cumbria or just the ones that went to preservation groups

I believe that you ought to be able to gather the information for most of them from in here http://www.bapc.org.uk/html/search_nahr.html