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I recently finished reading (and viewing I guess) the Osprey Frontline Color title called F-80 Shooting Star Units Over Korea.

A very good read, and of course the best part about the book is the incredible pictures! All of them are great quality, and there’s even some great shots of the ultra-rare RF-80 photo birds.

The F-80 has always been my favorite early jet fighter (I also like the F-94 and T-33 spin-offs), and I think it’s role in the Korean War is often overlooked by the exploits of the F-86 Sabre. A warplane in the truest sense of the word, the F-80 was incredibly rugged, being able to survive great amounts of battle damage. There are some really neat photos of Shooting Stars that made it back to base having sustained a ton of damage. There’s one photo of an F-80C that made it home after a MiG-15 put at least two 37-mm rounds through the center of the fuselage. There’s another photo of an F-80C that made it home after having the half the vertical tail sliced off by high-tension cables that the North Koreans had put up over a target.

The F-80 could also haul quite a large variety (and tonnage) of weapons, ranging from 5-inch rockets to bombs of 1,000 lbs. in size. There’s a neat photo of an F-80C with FOUR 1,000 lb. bombs taxiing to the runway.

I highly recommend this book to anyone who’s even remotely interested. It might give you a new respect for Lockheed’s Shooting Star as well as the men who flew and maintained her. (She even killed some MiG’s from time to time as well. 🙂 )

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By: PhantomII - 14th October 2004 at 06:03

Well, the T-33 was originally designated, the TF-80C. It was basically an F-80C with a second seat added, and slightly reduced fuel capacity, and a reduced armament comprising 2 Browning .50 cal. guns. The first TF-80C first flew in 1948. Soon after, it was redesignated the T-33, and as they say, the story of the T-33 is really almost a completely new one from the F-80. In short, over 5,000 were built for over 25 different nations, and as I said in a recent thread, some are still in service to this day……quite an accomplishment. To think that the TF-80C was only originally designed because of the alarming accident rate of early jet fighters (though not due to bad design or qualities but simply because pilot’s weren’t used to the new jet fighters of the time), and it went on to become the world’s most successful jet trainer is really quite interesting.

The T-33 was bulit in various forms, including the T-33A, T-33B, the naval Sea Star (which was carrier capable), the AT-33A armed variant, and DT-33A drone director.

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By: turbo_NZ - 13th October 2004 at 00:44

Hi Phantom,

Great pics,
As no-one has answered my question, do I assume there is no difference between the F-80 & T-33 ?
I have been unable to find the answer on the net

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By: PhantomII - 13th October 2004 at 00:41

Well, there are supposedly 4 CT-133’s in service with the CAF based at CFB Cold Lake in Alberta, but I don’t know of the serials on them.

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By: Bruggen 130 - 12th October 2004 at 22:26

Hi.
Is this T-33 still around,I think it’s Milldenhall but don’t know when.
Phil. 🙂

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By: PhantomII - 12th October 2004 at 22:21

http://www.cottonpickers.org/images/the_671.jpg

RT-33 in the background?

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 12th October 2004 at 13:06

ok – another detail of the camera nose in the RF-80

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 12th October 2004 at 12:51

two more and then back to work…

Martin 😀

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 12th October 2004 at 12:45

RF-80 at Roswell, NM

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 12th October 2004 at 12:43

another useful link

http://www.mindspring.com/~jaybirdone/headhunters/korea_photos.htm

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 12th October 2004 at 12:33

one more

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 12th October 2004 at 12:31

check here

http://www.cottonpickers.org/the_67th_tactical_reconnaissance_wing_in_korea,_1951-1954.htm

and here

http://www.cottonpickers.org/picture_of_the_week18.htm

many more photos of RF-80 can be found via the main site, and then under “Photo Collections”

http://www.cottonpickers.org/Main.htm

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By: Arabella-Cox - 12th October 2004 at 11:20

does anyone have any detail pics?

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By: turbo_NZ - 11th October 2004 at 22:30

That’s a good question, P2

Actually, armament aside, what is the performance differences between a T-33 and F-80?

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By: PhantomII - 11th October 2004 at 21:42

Anyone know of any places to look for answers to my questions?

Another good question would be what’s the need for the RT-33 if you have the RF-80?

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By: Dan Johnson - 11th October 2004 at 20:32

Just to keep the ball rolling. The 12th PRS in 1948. Lots of WW2 vets in the group photos. Nice formation shot as well.

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By: PhantomII - 11th October 2004 at 17:19

Great series of photos.

Of particular note to me was the photo that is obviously an RT-33. I’d like to know more about T-33 operations in Korea. Sadly, there was no mention of them in the F-80 book I recently read.

Also of interest is the last photo where it shows an F-80, but it has the T-33 style 230-gallon tip tanks as opposed to the 165 gallon Lockheed or 265 gallon Misawa tanks.

Personally I think the Misawa tanks look the best, but I’ve never seen an F-80 with T-33 tanks before, though I’ve read they could be fitted with them. Were they a bit more structurally sound than the Misawa tanks?

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 11th October 2004 at 15:30

a few more

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 11th October 2004 at 15:23

if you insist… 😀

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By: PhantomII - 10th October 2004 at 19:10

Cool photos guys. Thanks for sharing.

Any other photos are quite welcomed. The RF-80 is a rarity so post all the photos you want of it.

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 10th October 2004 at 13:38

Acrojets

Okay, here is my contribuition to this F-80 thread – the “Acrojets” aerobatic team from the Fighter School at Williams AFB. Az.

Enjoy!

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