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F-84 cockpit for sale

http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2114+++++187+&refno=10375561

Looks nice. I’ve always wanted one, but a bit too expensive for me:o

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By: Fouga23 - 30th January 2012 at 11:55

Cockpit sold for €15,301 and the Fouga for €88,521.

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By: Orion - 30th January 2012 at 11:23

One of the aeroplanes, or should it be airplanes, I’d dearly love to see in the sky again is the F-84. I wouldn’t mind if it’s a G or an F, but it would be nice!

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By: crl848 - 30th January 2012 at 10:52

Cockpit sold for €15,301 and the Fouga for €88,521.

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By: Fouga23 - 10th January 2012 at 10:11

Yeah, the Fouga is the reason I looked at the auction.
I guess someone will buy it. Last time they found someone willing to pay 102,000 Euro for an ex-BAF Mirage V with no engine!

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By: Fouga23 - 10th January 2012 at 10:11

Yeah, the Fouga is the reason I looked at the auction.
I guess someone will buy it. Last time they found someone willing to pay 102,000 Euro for an ex-BAF Mirage V with no engine!

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By: Dr. John Smith - 10th January 2012 at 01:09

F-84 cockpit for sale

My French is rusty but there appears to be a complete Fouga magister with a guide of 60-80,000 euro’s whats that about £48-£60k ???

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You can download the entire catalogue for free at http://www.artcurial.com/pdf/2012/2114.pdf

Mike, yes – lot 186 appears to be a complete (but probably not airworthy) Fouga Magister. Date of construction given as May 1966 – does that help to nail down its identity?

According to my contacts in FOREX (Foreign Currency Exchange) the €Euro has sunk a lot recently against the £Pound. So, at the current rate of exchange €60,000EUR = £49,574.55, and €80,000EUR = £66,099.40

The impression I get from the catalogue is that most of what are on sale are “objects d’art” that just happen to made from old aircraft parts. If you’re looking for “missing bits” to complete your restoration project, look elsewhere – this is seriously “upmarket”, and on a par with what you’d find at Christie’s or Sotheby’s.

For example: €1,000EUR for a seat out of a Lockheed C-141 (Lot 170), and €6,000EUR for Lot 249 – the fin of a Mirage III.

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By: Dr. John Smith - 10th January 2012 at 01:09

F-84 cockpit for sale

My French is rusty but there appears to be a complete Fouga magister with a guide of 60-80,000 euro’s whats that about £48-£60k ???

Mike E

www.whirlwindfighterproject.org

You can download the entire catalogue for free at http://www.artcurial.com/pdf/2012/2114.pdf

Mike, yes – lot 186 appears to be a complete (but probably not airworthy) Fouga Magister. Date of construction given as May 1966 – does that help to nail down its identity?

According to my contacts in FOREX (Foreign Currency Exchange) the €Euro has sunk a lot recently against the £Pound. So, at the current rate of exchange €60,000EUR = £49,574.55, and €80,000EUR = £66,099.40

The impression I get from the catalogue is that most of what are on sale are “objects d’art” that just happen to made from old aircraft parts. If you’re looking for “missing bits” to complete your restoration project, look elsewhere – this is seriously “upmarket”, and on a par with what you’d find at Christie’s or Sotheby’s.

For example: €1,000EUR for a seat out of a Lockheed C-141 (Lot 170), and €6,000EUR for Lot 249 – the fin of a Mirage III.

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By: Firebex - 10th January 2012 at 00:18

http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2114+++++187+&refno=10375561

Looks nice. I’ve always wanted one, but a bit too expensive for me:o

My French is rusty but there appears to be a complete Fouga magister with a guide of 60-80,000 euro’s whats that about £48-£60k ???

Mike E

www.whirlwindfighterproject.org

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By: Firebex - 10th January 2012 at 00:18

http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2114+++++187+&refno=10375561

Looks nice. I’ve always wanted one, but a bit too expensive for me:o

My French is rusty but there appears to be a complete Fouga magister with a guide of 60-80,000 euro’s whats that about £48-£60k ???

Mike E

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By: ozjag - 9th January 2012 at 22:55

The F-84 looks very nice and I certainly wouldn’t say no to it, the photos are also very clear which I think is great as so often things are dark or out of focus. However the estimates for some of the lots are quite expensive, 500 euro for a ‘Mig 29 chronograph’ or 1200 euro for a ‘wall light made of Hawker Hunter elements’

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By: ozjag - 9th January 2012 at 22:55

The F-84 looks very nice and I certainly wouldn’t say no to it, the photos are also very clear which I think is great as so often things are dark or out of focus. However the estimates for some of the lots are quite expensive, 500 euro for a ‘Mig 29 chronograph’ or 1200 euro for a ‘wall light made of Hawker Hunter elements’

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By: Dr. John Smith - 9th January 2012 at 21:12

F-84 cockpit for sale

A rough-and-ready translation of the description reads thus…

“Cockpit complete, Republic Aviation company, including canopy, complete dashboard, pilot ejection seat and handle of pilotage, specific materials, mounted on wheels.

Reference: US Air Force model F84F-61-RE, serial number: 52-6700.

Door “77th Fighter Squadron” and is decorated with the “Red Falcon roundel” 3.43 x 1.50 x 1.16 m.

77th FS (Fighter Squadron) of US AirForce is one of the oldest of the U.S. armed forces. It was formed in August 1917 in San Antonia Texas and was part of the 20th Fighter Wing. The use of the F-84F by the pilot of this flight was inaugurated in 1955, before being replaced by a Super Sabre. Lieutenant Colonel Bob Ackerly did add the Roundel of the “Red Falcon” when was the head of this mythical flight in 1956, based at the time at Wethersfield, in Great Britain. “

My usual source at http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1952.html doesn’t list this airframe, just the ones immediately before and after it:

52-6699 to Luftwaffe as DE+252. W/o May 21, 1962
52-6701 at Robins AFB

Hmm…52-6700 is probably ex-German and/or Greek: most of the batch 52-6643 to 52-6812 seem to have ended up with the air forces of those countries.

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By: Dr. John Smith - 9th January 2012 at 21:12

F-84 cockpit for sale

A rough-and-ready translation of the description reads thus…

“Cockpit complete, Republic Aviation company, including canopy, complete dashboard, pilot ejection seat and handle of pilotage, specific materials, mounted on wheels.

Reference: US Air Force model F84F-61-RE, serial number: 52-6700.

Door “77th Fighter Squadron” and is decorated with the “Red Falcon roundel” 3.43 x 1.50 x 1.16 m.

77th FS (Fighter Squadron) of US AirForce is one of the oldest of the U.S. armed forces. It was formed in August 1917 in San Antonia Texas and was part of the 20th Fighter Wing. The use of the F-84F by the pilot of this flight was inaugurated in 1955, before being replaced by a Super Sabre. Lieutenant Colonel Bob Ackerly did add the Roundel of the “Red Falcon” when was the head of this mythical flight in 1956, based at the time at Wethersfield, in Great Britain. “

My usual source at http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1952.html doesn’t list this airframe, just the ones immediately before and after it:

52-6699 to Luftwaffe as DE+252. W/o May 21, 1962
52-6701 at Robins AFB

Hmm…52-6700 is probably ex-German and/or Greek: most of the batch 52-6643 to 52-6812 seem to have ended up with the air forces of those countries.

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By: pagen01 - 9th January 2012 at 21:11

I’ve seen one bolted to an aircraft!
I realise thay are tall, compared to say a Hunter, but surely no bigger than a Lightning?
I can see why a half (or is it a quarter?) cockpit is handier, just seems a shame to loose the rest of it, especialy as the type has a fairly distinctive front end.

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By: pagen01 - 9th January 2012 at 21:11

I’ve seen one bolted to an aircraft!
I realise thay are tall, compared to say a Hunter, but surely no bigger than a Lightning?
I can see why a half (or is it a quarter?) cockpit is handier, just seems a shame to loose the rest of it, especialy as the type has a fairly distinctive front end.

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By: Fouga23 - 9th January 2012 at 21:01

Have you seen a full F-84 cockpit? It’s massive! I’d rather prefer this then a “complete” one.

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By: Fouga23 - 9th January 2012 at 21:01

Have you seen a full F-84 cockpit? It’s massive! I’d rather prefer this then a “complete” one.

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By: pagen01 - 9th January 2012 at 19:51

It might do, it’s been halved in height and length!
Shame as a full F-84 cockpit would be far more attractive, unless this is based on a sim/procedures trainer?

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By: pagen01 - 9th January 2012 at 19:51

It might do, it’s been halved in height and length!
Shame as a full F-84 cockpit would be far more attractive, unless this is based on a sim/procedures trainer?

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By: ian_ - 9th January 2012 at 19:30

And somewhere to put it. It would never fit up the stairs.

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