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F-84s in NATO service

Hello all,
This is my first post, so lets hope it works.
I’ve been recently working on a project of to detail the operational histories of US Cold War-era fighter jets, including the F-84 Thunderjet/Thunderstreak series. I’m trying to match up operational histories with serial numbers, which is not as easy as it sounds!

Information on these old jets is brutally hard to find, especially unit histories, crashes, combat losses, scrappings, that sort of thing, more than just the s/n. In particular, I have little on the West German F-84Fs except serial numbers, though I know about 36% crashed. Also for the Italian, Greek, Turkish and even the French F-84s, I can’t find any place where there is a list of what serial numbers crashed where and when, and what happened to them after they were retired, what USAF units they came from, how they were disposed of, that sort of thing.

Perhaps someone here could assist me, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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By: pvde67 - 7th February 2011 at 19:35

Hi Joao

This link is no longer active, but might be of interest to me.
Can you contact me about it?

Thank you

Paul

Do you need a hand with the potuguese F-84s?

Here you can see a list of losses:http://callsignafp.blogspot.com/2007/03/f-84g-thunderjet-aeronaves-destrudas-em.html

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By: Jotapicos - 1st November 2007 at 00:06

Do you need a hand with the potuguese F-84s?

Here you can see a list of losses:http://callsignafp.blogspot.com/2007/03/f-84g-thunderjet-aeronaves-destrudas-em.html

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By: Lindy's Lad - 30th October 2007 at 22:39

NEAM’s F-84F Thunderstreak

Here is a link to the full history of our F-84F. The information on the Greek jets is out there, but unfortunately at this time I have no leads to give…

http://www.neam.org.uk/Exhibits/History/26541.htm

By the way, as part of the deal which saw the F84F and F86D come to us, we have to keep one aircraft in its Greek markings. The F86D had a more interesting history earlier in its career, so the F84 remains as a Greek example. Hope it helps in some way…

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By: mike currill - 19th October 2007 at 21:35

Am I correct in thinking that the Bealgian Air Force also used them?

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By: Mudmover - 19th October 2007 at 14:57

This taken at RNAF Bardufoss-late 70’s.Another gunless F-86?

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By: Mudmover - 19th October 2007 at 13:07

More from RDAF Vandel and Tirstrup late 70’s early 80’s.Apologies for presentation-technophobia!!

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By: Bager1968 - 17th October 2007 at 04:25

Yep, that’s a Sabre-Dog all right.

Thanks for the extra pic.

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By: John Aeroclub - 16th October 2007 at 10:18

Of course they are – my apologies. You can see the resemblance though can’t you?!

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They are “D”‘s No guns and Denmark had the F.86.D

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th October 2007 at 09:19

I think the ‘Lansens’ might actually be F86D Sabre Dogs.

Of course they are – my apologies. You can see the resemblance though can’t you?!

Hat, coat, taxi waiting!!!

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By: Bager1968 - 16th October 2007 at 03:12

Were they F-86Ds or F-86Ks?

They both had the same APG-37 nose radar, with the -D having the E-4 fire control system optimized for the retractable under-fuselage rocket pack, and the -K having the MG-4 fire control system optimized for the 4x20mm armament to fit NATO standards.

The -D was originally produced for the USAF only, with the -K being produced for NATO customers.

I know that Yugoslavia eventually got ex-USAF -Ds, but did Denmark get the NATO -Ks or ex-USAF -Ds?

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By: Kenneth - 15th October 2007 at 17:07

I think the ‘Lansens’ might actually be F86D Sabre Dogs.

Indeed they are; only the RSwedAF had Lansens and Denmark had F-86D’s (note: Denmark is neither a part of nor somewhere in Sweden, nor vice versa…).

There were quite a number of F-84G, F-86D and RF-84F’s positioned as decoys (none of these types ever flew in the overall olive green paint scheme which these aircraft are wearing, it having been applied after they were relegated to decoy duties) on various military airfields in Jutland right up until the early Nineties. Then the RDanAF had a cleanout and most of them were scrapped (although most were probably beyond saving anyway after having parked in the open for up to 30 years without any care whatsoever).

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By: Ant.H - 15th October 2007 at 14:05

I think the ‘Lansens’ might actually be F86D Sabre Dogs.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th October 2007 at 13:49

These Thunderjets were parked as decoys in the 70’s at RDAF Vandel, all the serials were over painted.

John

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Aeroclub/ThunderjetsVandel.jpg

Looks like 4 Lansen’s too!

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By: John Aeroclub - 14th October 2007 at 23:05

Hello all,
This is my first post, so lets hope it works.
I’ve been recently working on a project of to detail the operational histories of US Cold War-era fighter jets, including the F-84 Thunderjet/Thunderstreak series. I’m trying to match up operational histories with serial numbers, which is not as easy as it sounds!

Information on these old jets is brutally hard to find, especially unit histories, crashes, combat losses, scrappings, that sort of thing, more than just the s/n. In particular, I have little on the West German F-84Fs except serial numbers, though I know about 36% crashed. Also for the Italian, Greek, Turkish and even the French F-84s, I can’t find any place where there is a list of what serial numbers crashed where and when, and what happened to them after they were retired, what USAF units they came from, how they were disposed of, that sort of thing.

Perhaps someone here could assist me, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Nate

These Thunderjets were parked as decoys in the 70’s at RDAF Vandel, all the serials were over painted.

John

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Aeroclub/ThunderjetsVandel.jpg

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By: Kenneth - 14th October 2007 at 22:42

German F-84F and RF-84F:

Try the forum in my signature (same software as this one, so same registration process. Don’t worry about posting in English; appropriate subforum would be “Bundeswehr”).

Danish F-84E/G and RF-84F:

Try the webmaster of http://www.milfly.dk . He used to have a list of all surviving Danish military aircraft on this site. Maybe he can help?

You`ve certainly got your work cut out for you – a small country like Denmark had about 250 F-84’s! And then there`s all the other countries as well 😮

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By: nmdecke - 14th October 2007 at 18:55

Hello,
Thanks for the Dutch listing! That, pretty much, is what I am looking for. Now if I could only find similar pages for the other NATO air forces. For that matter, even USAF and Air National Guard units, which seem to have “lost” all this sort of information on anything before their vaunted F-16s arrived.
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By: Lindy's Lad - 13th October 2007 at 14:29

NEAM have Republic F-84F Thunderstreak (52-06541), an ex-greek example, in its original retirement markings preserved at Sunderland.

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By: Jur - 13th October 2007 at 10:57

I have a rather complete list somewhere of all the F-84F’s in Royal Netherlands Airforce service. What information do you need, other than registration- and serial numbers?

I just found a link (in Dutch) with the history of all RNAF F-84F’s http://home.casema.nl/kw.jonker/Typen/R/Republic%20F84F.htm#Registraties

Hopefully most entries are self-explanatory. verongelukt means “crashed”; IRAN=”Inspect and Repair as Necessary”; LETS=”Luchtmacht Electronische en Technische School”

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