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Fantastic WW1 prop – can you help ID please…

Hello Experts!!

Well here is a little find from a very far off land. It was just saved from being used as fire wood – seriously!! The markings suggest 1916 and the manufacturers badge looks a little nautical. Any idea what aircraft it might be from or any ideas to its history? To help you get an idea of the size, the lovely lady in the first picture is about 5’6.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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By: JDK - 1st July 2005 at 08:42

A very small bit of jigsaw – the flag certainly looks like a ‘House Flag’ of Wm Beardmore and Co, so yes, it’s nautical. Doesn’t mean that the airscrew is though!

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By: anneorac - 1st July 2005 at 08:35

They also had contracts to build a number of aircraft including B.E.2c and D.H.9. The prop in question has a rather unusual feature for an airscrew of this period in that it quotes the diameter and pitch in feet and inches. First time I’ve seen that on a British prop of the 1914-18 period as they are usually given in millimeters.

Are there any other markings on the hub? What we really need is the drawing number which usually appears somewhere on the hub because without this we are left with whatโ€™s basically speculation.

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By: RadarArchive - 1st July 2005 at 06:37

Indeed they did James. They built more airships than any other company with the exception of Vickers.

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By: JDK - 1st July 2005 at 00:41

I’ve no idea if this prop is involved, but didn’t Beardmore also make engines, and some of those powered dirigibles as well?

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 30th June 2005 at 16:01

Skipper – just looking at the pic of the Nieuport 12, do you think this prop is too big???

Could be, Beardmore engines were fitted to FE2’s!

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By: Taifun - 30th June 2005 at 16:00

Skipper – just looking at the pic of the Nieuport 12, do you think this prop is too big???

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By: italian harvard - 30th June 2005 at 16:00

Taifun, Melv gave u a better path to follow, u’ll surely do better by using the info on the hub ๐Ÿ™‚

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 30th June 2005 at 15:55

Taifun,

Ray Rimmell published a book all about identifying WW1 propellors from the serial numbers on the hub. One of those numbers is the drawing number and the drawing wiul specify which types it was fitted to. The fact that Beardmore made Nieuport 12s does not prove it was from one of those. Beardmore also made other types!

Check out “Albatross Publications” or post the lettering from the hub to the forum in Aerodrome.com

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By: Taifun - 30th June 2005 at 15:55

Alex – any idea where I find such info???

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By: italian harvard - 30th June 2005 at 15:42

u should dig thru planes exported to Argentina during the WW1 and successive years..

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By: Taifun - 30th June 2005 at 15:05

Italian Harvard – Well this is where the plot thickens. The prop was made in Scotland but found when clearing out a house just outside Buenos Aires, in Argentina. I have no details of how it got there. If only it could talk!

Skipper – Thank you – wear your boy Scout Detective badge with pride! The manufacturer is certainly the same. I found out a little more about them:-

“On the outbreak of war in 1914, Sir William Beardmore was immediately called on to supply guns, ships and aeroplanes in quantity. A great deal of money was invested in new buildings and plant to manufacture all this material, particularly at Dalmuir and at Mossend, where the works were completely reconstructed with help from the Ministry of Munitions.

After the end of the war, Sir Williamโ€™s enthusiasm for expansion and development was unabated. He saw the future in terms of the manufacture of passenger aeroplanes, cars, railway engines and motor cycles and opened an experimental civil aviation department.”

I know sometimes we get off the topic here and the odd bicker can break out. Sometimes we just stare at fantastic pictures of great aircraft. However under it all runs a depth of knowledge that many posters here should be very proud of.

Thanks in advance for any further information that the forum might be able to offer..

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By: Skipper - 30th June 2005 at 14:15

Taifun,

This link points towards it belonging to a Nieuport 12…

http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/nieuport.html

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By: italian harvard - 30th June 2005 at 14:14

whenever u get tired of it send me a PM and I’ll give u my shipping address ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜‰
Where does it come from exactly? this might help too.. U have any clue of the wood type?

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By: darrenharbar - 30th June 2005 at 13:44

What a great find, and well saved!

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