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FANTASY WARBIRD RACING LEAGUE

Following on from the Buchon/two seater thread, an excuse for some unrestrained speculative rambling about how…

…if you had unlimited funds, the necessary expertise to build a modified version of any historic aeroplane, including ones that no longer exist or those that only exist in dreams/arguments etc.. 😀 What would be your weapon of choice for the ultimate ‘Unlimited Warbird’ race…

The entry list so far:

‘straight outta Baginton’…. my clipped wing DH Hornet, I think I will keep the Merlins to preserve the streamlined nacelles.

‘Team TweedSpeed’…. with its stable of a ludicruosly powerful Griffon Buchon and a highly polished Wyvern.

Any more takers….. 😀

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By: turbo_NZ - 13th December 2004 at 10:30

Since NZ is a country of rebuild and recycle rather than new, I have taken the opportunity for # 2 of Team Anzac…

A Polikarpov I-16 with an R-4360 on Nitrous and a cut down fin !!!

Test-pilots have commented it’s a bit of a handful on take-off…… :diablo:

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By: Mark12 - 13th December 2004 at 09:42

OK how’s this? 🙂

Darkened the red a bit. Guess it’s a Spencer Flack moment.

Now for the mods.
No aerial mast, mirror, etc.
Replaced the Griffon III/IV with a “souped up” Griffon VI. Wanted to lose that magneto bump on the nose.
Ice guard removed, no armament, no armor plate.
Can’t decide if it’s a ‘wet wing’ or just adding fuel tankage like a recce Spit. Added the fuselage tank.

Should go like a rocket down low 🙂

Dan

Very nice Dan. I’ll take it, wrap it up. 🙂

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By: Archer - 13th December 2004 at 08:50

Thinking of twin Mustangs, is it true that the pilot would tend to roll the aircraft around the axis of his fuselage, causing the radar operator in the other side to be thrown around the sky in a less graceful fashion. Or is this the aviation equivalent of an ‘urban myth’….. Just curious, any ideas?

Probably a myth, the aircraft will always roll around its center of gravity, which is between the two fuselages. It might have felt strange to the pilot at first, but to roll the aircraft around the left fuselage would need a lot of strange control inputs I’m guessing!

Heres 3 griffon powered Mustangs

Actually only the first two started out as Mustangs! The third one is a custom fuselage with Learjet wings and horizontal tail if I remember correctly.

Still thinking about my entry, but there’s some serious competition here already! 😀 😀

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By: DazDaMan - 13th December 2004 at 08:15

Bah…

Someone’s beaten me to it (almost)….

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By: Dan Johnson - 13th December 2004 at 05:28

Dan,

In the true spirit of UK personal car number plates, I think you better make that G-MKIZ to satisfy our CAA.

You can round off the ‘Zed’, or perhaps that should be ‘Zee’, a touch. 🙂

I like it.

Mark

OK how’s this? 🙂

Darkened the red a bit. Guess it’s a Spencer Flack moment.

Now for the mods.
No aerial mast, mirror, etc.
Replaced the Griffon III/IV with a “souped up” Griffon VI. Wanted to lose that magneto bump on the nose.
Ice guard removed, no armament, no armor plate.
Can’t decide if it’s a ‘wet wing’ or just adding fuel tankage like a recce Spit. Added the fuselage tank.

Should go like a rocket down low 🙂

Dan

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By: turbo_NZ - 13th December 2004 at 01:14

Now, if I could get a few people to dig me a wee lake, say about 3 kms worth right next to the start-finish line then mine is gonna blitz all of your “entries” :p with a…

Macchi-Castoldi MC-72…..Team ANZAC…with uprated Griffons with customised couplings in place of the Fiat AS-6’s……

See my tail, yup that’s all you gonna see….. :diablo:

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By: Seafuryfan - 13th December 2004 at 00:37

My entry is a polished aluminium finish Lancaster BIII stripped of its wartime fittings, top turret blistered, Merlin powerplants replaced by RR Nenes, with an extra Nene on the upper fuselage, and, if the mounting brackets and aircraft structure can take it, a retractable RR Olympus (usually hidden in the bomb bay) which rotates into the airflow to provide a bit of extra boost if required.

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 12th December 2004 at 23:25

Lavotchkin La11 with Corncob engine anyone?

Any more?

Rearwin Cloudster with a . . .

Nah, that’s just silly.

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By: JDK - 12th December 2004 at 20:55

This is looking rather a cool line up.

Love the Spit 12 Dan.

Lavotchkin La11 with Corncob engine anyone?

Any more?

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By: Spiteful21 - 12th December 2004 at 20:23

Make mine a Bf 109Z-1 and a Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation CA-15 with it’s luuuverly RR Griffon race tuned with Shackleton contra-props. (Stock CA-15 450mph, race-modded ?)

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By: Mark12 - 12th December 2004 at 09:24

Mk.XII Racer – Better make that “India Zulu”

I have my entry all set to go. When do we race? 🙂

Dan

Dan,

In the true spirit of UK personal car number plates, I think you better make that G-MKIZ to satisfy our CAA.

You can round off the ‘Zed’, or perhaps that should be ‘Zee’, a touch. 🙂

I like it.

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By: planecrazy - 12th December 2004 at 02:18

For you Griffon fans

Heres 3 griffon powered Mustangs . Two out of the past, one still flying

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By: planecrazy - 11th December 2004 at 19:18

Only one possible

It was called Sunami A race ready Merlin with the smallest possible body wrapped around it

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By: DazDaMan - 11th December 2004 at 18:25

Steve Hinton hinted at a PR XIX Spitfire racer when disussing the restoration of PS890 – IIRC he said “remove the wing radiators and fit a boiling tank(?)”

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By: HP57 - 11th December 2004 at 18:15

How about a Mk XIX Spitfire airframe with contra rotating propeller, souped up Griffon. The underwing radiators removed and a central radiator intake similar to the Mustung underneath the fuselage. Streamlined canopy and clipped wingtips (almost lik the POF example). Wouldn’t that make a very fine racer?

Something I have been thinking about for years after seeing the modified Mustangs and Sea Furies.

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By: Will J - 11th December 2004 at 16:46

This is more like it..

Contra rotating props, for no other reason other than looking kind of angry, check…

Streamlined canopy, though the original DH one was probably just as good, check…

A bit of surgery to the wingtips with a hacksaw, check…

Some blatant sponsorship down the side, check…

OK, I’m ready to go 🙂

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By: Will J - 11th December 2004 at 14:06

Thinking of twin Mustangs, is it true that the pilot would tend to roll the aircraft around the axis of his fuselage, causing the radar operator in the other side to be thrown around the sky in a less graceful fashion. Or is this the aviation equivalent of an ‘urban myth’….. Just curious, any ideas?

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By: Will J - 11th December 2004 at 13:45

The field is shaping up nicely, I think the Shackledak can be my team transport, I need to work on a fighter to compete.

It is either going to have to be plan a) the Hornet or a plan b) my variation on the Griffon twin Mustang idea, blanking off both cockpits and bolting on the front end of Cosford’s ‘prone position’ Meteor where the radar used to be, on the middle wing. The ultimate hotrod 😀

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By: Mark12 - 11th December 2004 at 08:49

I have my entry all set to go. When do we race? 🙂

Dan

Yes please. 🙂

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By: Dan Johnson - 11th December 2004 at 01:19

I have my entry all set to go. When do we race? 🙂

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