November 9, 2016 at 10:15 pm
A bit more tidying of the BAPC Register. In 1989, Historic Flying Ltd. commissioned a batch of twelve gate-guardian FSM from Feggans-Brown, to replace the various real examples being pulled back for restoration. This is what I know of them. Any corrections/updates would be very welcome:
BAPC.217 Spitfire K9926 JH-C for Bentley Priory; Refurbished by Gateguards 2012, now at Spitfire Corner, Newquay. Replaced at Bentley by
unmarked R6595 DW-O, not yet assigned a BAPC identity.
BAPC.218 Hurricane P3386 FT-T for Bentley Priory; became BN230 FT-A; refurbished 2012 by Gateguards and returned as P2921 GZ-L
BAPC.219 Hurricane L1710 AL-D for Biggin Hill; to Northolt 2010 as L1684; replaced at Biggin by new-build P2921 GZ-L
BAPC.220 Spitfire N3194 GR-Z for Biggin Hill; sold 2012; to Air & Ground Aviation, Shirleywich, Staffs. replaced by new-build K9998 QJ-K
BAPC.221 Spitfire MH577 SZ-G for Northolt; became EN526, then MH314
BAPC.222 Spitfire BR600 for Uxbridge; refurbished 2010 and to Battle of Britain Bunker, Uxbridge, as BS239 5R-E
BAPC.223 Hurricane V7467 LE-D for Coltishall; to High Wycombe 2006; to Spitfire Display Team at Blackpool 2014; to become L1926 DU-J
replaced at Wycombe by new-build BAPC.378, still marked as V7467
BAPC.224 Spitfire ML380 LV-C; in Canada’s National Air Force Museum. Did it go directly there, or was it at a UK station first?
BAPC.225 Spitfire P8448 OR-D for Swanton Morley, now at Cranwell
BAPC.226 Spitfire PR.XI EN343 for Benson; refurbished 1994; now marked as PL904
BAPC.227 Spitfire L1067 XT-D at Edinburgh Airport, replacing the real Spitfire from Turnhouse
BAPC.229 Spitfire L1096 for Digby, now marked as MJ832 DN-Y
(This last is not a typo!; a hang-glider sneaked in as BAPC.228)
BAPC.230 is in fact another Spitfire FSM, but was built in 1991 by TDL Replicas of Lowestoft and is at Eden Camp, Malton, N.Yorks. as RK838,
formerly AB550 and AA908
By: Bunsen Honeydew - 14th November 2016 at 13:45
Of course Feggans Brown had already built the FSMs for the TV series “A Piece of Cake”. I’m aware of the following:
———- Spitfire cockpit, prepared for the TV but not used, now with Alan Partington in Catford
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That cockpit is odd. It was built bottomless with the canopy sealed with aquarium sealant anf plumbing fittings on the bulkheads at each end. The original idea was to invert, slowly fill it with water, and film the occupant of one the aircraft that failed to fly under a river bridge drowing. The filming never took place. The cockoit was also about three inches too wide, not a problem until you try to fit correct sized mock up frames and instrument panel. It went on loan to an ATC squadron as a project but, as is so often the case, a change in OC meant that no work was carried out.
By: snafu - 13th November 2016 at 16:16
R&@#$$£%h?.><* @@@! I posted an answer around 9am-ish this morning and it isn’t here!
The serials, as Scotavia says, are for tracking BUT also they give some items (historic or otherwise) an identity.
For example the only serial that Alcock and Brown’s Vimy has is BAPC 51, it having no military or civil registration. The same with a number of Mignet Pou-Du-Ciels that were under construction when the design suffered from CoA certification withdrawal, so they were left without registration until listed by the BAPC. It gave anonymous airframes, ie those found in barns or behind hangars hidden in the long grass, an identity, as well as the full scale (although not necessarily accurate) models and replicas, since they rarely keep the same (false) serial from construction.
There were a few anomalies initially, such as half scale museum models, but that can be forgiven since the normal civil register also suffered one or two weird ones – is that manhole cover preserved, anyone?
By: Seaking93 - 13th November 2016 at 10:22
British aircraft preservation council.
Originally was but changed to British Aviation Preservation Council several years ago to reflect the wider subject matter such as support equipment and airfields etc
By: scotavia - 13th November 2016 at 09:27
As you suggested,tracking . Otherwise any reference would become long winded ” That Hurricane which used to be at the Siddal auction rooms,then Upton camp marked USW but dont think its the same one that was displayed at Earls Court in the same markings,they were both replicas “
Also in the early days of aviation several flyers had no identity, home builders also produced all sorts of craft some never flew and it can take time for the real identity to be re discovered on some airframes so a BAPC serial helps track.
By: J Boyle - 13th November 2016 at 06:03
Thanks…but why the serials?
By: scotavia - 13th November 2016 at 00:19
British aircraft preservation council.
By: J Boyle - 12th November 2016 at 23:32
What does “BAPC” stand for?
I assume a council of some sort, if so why would they serial FSMs…just so those interested can keep track of them?
By: Maelogman - 12th November 2016 at 21:54
Of course Feggans Brown had already built the FSMs for the TV series “A Piece of Cake”. I’m aware of the following:
BAPC.202 Spitfire MA467ended up at Maes Artro Leisure Park, by Llanbedr. On e-bay 2006 and not heard of since
BAPC.209 Spitfire MJ751 FJ-N now at the Niagara Falls Museum
BAPC.283 Spitfire, serial not known, now in store in the Isle of Man, previously seen at Jurby
———- Spitfire cockpit, prepared for the TV but not used, now with Alan Partington in Catford
From their build date of 1990, I suspect that Spitfire BAPC.206/MH486 and Hurricane BAPC.205/Z3427 at Hendon might also be Feggans Brown products, but am waiting confirmation or otherwise.
By: stuart gowans - 10th November 2016 at 07:41
As I understand it TDL and GB Replicas moulds are one and the same, taken (from memory) from a Belgian museum Spitfire.
By: Roobarb - 10th November 2016 at 07:09
Were the TDL moulds the same ones or are they the ones that were taken from the Italian Museum Spitfire? They are certainly different from the ones used on the GB replicas.
By: scotavia - 10th November 2016 at 00:30
good work keeping these records…mention of a typo reminds me of the hundreds of times that the press refers to hand gliders.