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Ferranti Doppler Automap

Can anyone tell me what aircraft the Ferranti Doppler Automap system was used on, and anything else about this equipment? I am trying to find out more about the Ferranti Doppler Automap Map Display Unit Model No 1 shown below. I thought this was the system used in the prototype Concordes, but this does not seem to match the front panel of the set shown in photos of the flight deck of Concorde 002 G-BSST.

Any suggestions would be very welcome.

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By: TerryP - 4th August 2013 at 15:08

Jag NAVWASS PMD:

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By: Junk Collector - 4th August 2013 at 13:29

As someone has mentioned Jaguar, I am looking for some Jaguar stuff does anyone have anything, instrument panels map display etc

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By: TonyT - 4th August 2013 at 11:53

I wonder if the later version is the one that was part of the NAVWASS in the Jaguar

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By: RadarArchive - 4th August 2013 at 08:08

JR Thanks for that. That link provided the clue that I believe has solved the issue. I think this is a development model of the TSR2 moving map display. I need to do a bit more research, but it seems a pretty good match compared to the navigator’s cockpit mock-up shown in the Thunder & Lightnings website and below.

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By: JagRigger - 3rd August 2013 at 08:49

More on Concorde set here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1969/1969%20-%203409.html?search=Ferranti Doppler Automap

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By: RadarArchive - 3rd August 2013 at 07:32

Mike,

Thanks very much for this interesting suggestion. I doubt it is the case though, as Ferranti and Ekco were competing companies and Ferranti had its own flying unit, so I very much doubt that any Ferranti equipment would be tested in an Ekco aircraft.

What puzzles me is that I was told this was the development model of the moving map display, but the photo of the French prototype Concorde, 001, below (taken with acknowledgement from Airliners.net) shows the moving map display as slightly different, with a couple of square buttons on the top. That is what makes me wonder if the set I have is for a different aircraft or is it the original Ferranti prototype that what changed by the time they fitted it to the Concorde prototypes. I am hoping someone might have the answers.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd August 2013 at 22:27

I’m restoring an Anson 19 that was used by Ecko Electronics way back to test the Concorde E320 radar. The original instrument panel was removed and a bespoke one made and fitted which had two openings for equipment on the RH side. One opening is rectangular and the other square (I don’t have dimensions to hand).

I’m wondering if the piece of kit you have shown in your picture is what was fitted to the square aperture as it looks about the right size. Do you know if this is likely and, if so, would it be possible to obtain one? This kit was stripped out when the aircraft was donated to Southend Museum in 1972.

To try and answer your original query, Ian, I’m wondering if the Concorde radar was specific to that aircraft only, due to its higher operating speed/height.

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By: RadarArchive - 2nd August 2013 at 21:45

Has no-one genuinely seen one of these before? I’m surprised that no-one can tell me anything about this bit of kit and what it would have been fitted to. I guess there are some things even this forum can’t answer!

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