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Fighter buried at/near Yeovil???(old Thread 2006)

I was speaking yesterday to my uncle, Geoff Stanton, and was telling him how I’d love to see a Westland Whirlwind Fighter, or the ‘crikey’ as it was affectionately known, once again gracing our skies. As this was relating to a wider conversation we were having, we didn’t dwell on the idea, suffice to say that he is aware of a ‘rumour’, ‘myth’, call it what you will, that says there is a Whirlwind buried (not crashed, buried) somewhere either at or near Yeovil (I assume he meant near Yeovilton). When I queried this with him, he could tell me no more info other than what is written above.

Having done a basic Google search this morning, I have perhaps unsurprisingly, found nothing that dismisses, confirms, or even relates to this ‘rumour’.

As a result, it’s over to you guys. Can anyone shed light on this matter?

PS: Just to confirm, I’m after info regarding a possible buried Westland Whirlwind WW2 Fighter, not the post-war helicopter!

Thanks,
Rich.

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By: crikeymk1 - 29th December 2009 at 13:50

one Peregrine is reasonable, no supercharger housing though, the other is nothing more than half a block, being totally shattered in the crash….

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By: crikeymk1 - 29th December 2009 at 13:47

The peregrine had been at Tangmere,then there had been some kind of management altercation and the Peregrine went briefly to the Isle of Wight where Steve has a Spitfire restoration business, before going off again….on loan to Rolls Royce at Derby, apparently there are no plans to restore it. The supercharger housing is shattered, possibly the only feature that marks it out to be a Peregrine Rather than a Kestrel XXX, on the plus side though, it does have a bent airscrew….

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By: Rocketeer - 6th January 2006 at 13:09

This one has gone….from my friend:
Could you repost to those flypast forum the fact that a search was undertaken by Westland Archivist for this prompted by my offer of Geophy’s equipment to track down the cockpit and if found loaning it to BDAC.

He discovered talking to a retired site employee that the cockpit was placed in the landfill but due to it sitting near a river Westlands were worried about contamination issue, so it was removed and scrapped off site. Its not there any more.

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By: brewerjerry - 5th January 2006 at 21:05

Sadly this one has run its course…..nothing there anymore….just imagine what I would like to say to the ATC unit that scrapped the peregrines!!

Hi,
My apoligies for resurecting an old thread but I have been away from the board for a while, I missed the post about the ATC unit scrapping them, any details ? my last info on the engines was they were re used in a test rig and were in storage at westlands.
Of interest I was recently e mailed a photo of the whirlwind before it went ‘underground’ and it was pretty well intact, lacking engines of course, can’t post due to any copyright prob’s.
As a final note the ATC weren’t the worst offenders………

In 1970, when a RN technical college, nr Plymouth , was tidying out it’s instructional airframes it offered a cockpit to the RAF, as they thought it was of historic interest, but the RAF turned down a complete whirlwind cockpit, we have plenty of them…….. ( presumably they thought is was a helo )
A true story, as a family relative worked there at the time and offered me the chance to sit in the cockpit before it was burnt in a fire fighting demonstration on a base family open day…..
Sadly I had no camera in those days.
Ironic really I suppose not wanted by the RAF in 1940 and again 30 years later……

But I would love any info on the ATC unit and the scrappies, or if anyone has anything on the whirwind captured by the luftwaffe and seen near Paris in ’44,
Please post..
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By: EN830 - 6th September 2005 at 20:01

P6966 was put on charge with 25 Sqn June 1940, transferred to 263 Sqn 24 June 1940 at Grangemouth, Scotland. This aircraft was the first to be written off when the port tyre burst on take off. The pilot P/O McDermott managed to take off but Flying Control advised him that his undercart was badly damaged, he was further advised that trying to land the aircraft in such a state would be extremely hazardous, he opted to climb away and bail out between Grangemouth and Stirling. The aircraft dived in and buried itself 30ft into the ground. The ORB stated “Could not be recovered”.

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By: Merlin3945 - 6th September 2005 at 18:18

I am reliably told that the wreckage that Steve currently holds is from a 263 Sqn aircraft (P6966)that crashed in Scotland. I believe that he recovered both engines, in fact it appears from the Flypast article that RR Heritage holds both and it is planned to restore them. From the photograph on page 67 of Jan 2005, it seems that the one on disply is in reasonable condition, if a little bit knocked about from the impact of the crash.

anymore info on this aircraft as I hadnt heard of this accident before

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By: jeepman - 6th September 2005 at 18:05

Don’t hold your breath!

I tried a while ago enclosing the project plan I prepared for the original WIX initiative

Never even got an acknowledgement……….

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By: Rich82 - 6th September 2005 at 15:57

Si.

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By: Seaking93 - 6th September 2005 at 15:51

Yeah, am working on a letter to them now actually Ian! Will obviously let the forum know what any reply says.

Cheers.

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So you can read Italian then 🙂

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By: Rich82 - 6th September 2005 at 12:03

Yeah, am working on a letter to them now actually Ian! Will obviously let the forum know what any reply says.

Cheers.

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By: EN830 - 6th September 2005 at 07:51

So (admittedly, having read the latest replies whilst under the influence of alchohol) , can someone please confirm what the exact status is regarding my initial post?!!?

I understand that though many different views/ideas/rumours/opinions exist as to what, if anything, is buried at Yeovil, there actually is no wreckage/airframe etc there at all, or at least, not enough there to warrant an excavation?

No one knows !!!! It maybe there, it may not be, as you have said this is all views/ides/rumours/opinions, but sometimes, that’s how the big finds start. Why not try writing to GKN Westlands and ask the question.

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By: Rich82 - 6th September 2005 at 00:21

So (admittedly, having read the latest replies whilst under the influence of alchohol) , can someone please confirm what the exact status is regarding my initial post?!!?

I understand that though many different views/ideas/rumours/opinions exist as to what, if anything, is buried at Yeovil, there actually is no wreckage/airframe etc there at all, or at least, not enough there to warrant an excavation?

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By: Ant.H - 6th September 2005 at 00:12

There was a Peregrine on display in the museum at Tangmere a few years ago,would this have been one of the Steve Vizzard engines?

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By: EN830 - 5th September 2005 at 21:57

I am reliably told that the wreckage that Steve currently holds is from a 263 Sqn aircraft (P6966)that crashed in Scotland. I believe that he recovered both engines, in fact it appears from the Flypast article that RR Heritage holds both and it is planned to restore them. From the photograph on page 67 of Jan 2005, it seems that the one on disply is in reasonable condition, if a little bit knocked about from the impact of the crash.

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By: DaveR - 5th September 2005 at 21:52

When I spoke to someone at Rolls Royce Heritage I was told the Peregrine is on loan from Steve Vizard.

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By: jeepman - 5th September 2005 at 21:24

Think the engine currently with the RR Heritage Trust is on loan from Steve Vizzard according to FP of a few months ago. I may be wrong but I thought a brace of Peregrines were actually recovered by him from a bog up north somewhere (if that’s the source of the substantial wreckage he holds).

I guess if anybody has the technical infrastructure to recreate a Whirlwind it would be him. If he decides to pursue such a project, let’s hope he succeeds

Anybody know if anything else is buried with G-AGOI?

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By: EN830 - 5th September 2005 at 20:45

At least one Peregrine still exists with Rolls Royce in Derby.

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By: Rocketeer - 5th September 2005 at 20:32

Sadly this one has run its course…..nothing there anymore….just imagine what I would like to say to the ATC unit that scrapped the peregrines!!

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By: EN830 - 5th September 2005 at 13:37

I’ve heard contrary accounts of this, one claimed it’s under one of the hangars the other under an administration block. There is even one that it’s under a runway, but I seem to recall from the many times I’ve passed Westlands, it’s grass !!!

I spoke to someone at the time of the WIX debate, they had been in contact with the works manager at GKN Westlands and he had confirmed that one had been buried on the airfield.

I know the rough where abouts of 4 other, but doubt if much would be left now.

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By: Charley - 5th September 2005 at 12:59

From what was said on this site and WIX, the story seems to be that the wreck was slid down an embankment then covered with earth from some building works at the factory. I would be chuffed to see it raised no matter what state of the wreck, but am not sure if this is practical (due to subsequent buliding over the site) even if funds were available.

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