April 15, 2004 at 11:54 am
Was wondering if anyone has any information on the loss of the Alouette G-AWEE over Ireland in 1970. I believe it had a mid air with one of the aircraft it was filming. – Aces High??
I know there have been other incidents eg the Buchon engaged in Pearl Harbour and the B-17 for Memphis Belle and I just wondered if any others are known.
OAW
By: JohnH - 16th April 2004 at 12:39
The NTSB recently put up the report on the Mantz crash. Among the factors was the fact that he had alcohol in his blood.
John
By: DazDaMan - 16th April 2004 at 12:36
There was a thread mentioning the Williams accident a while back – don’t recall what about, though.
By: Mark12 - 16th April 2004 at 12:33
It was being delivered to Doug Arnold at Blackbushe.
It was then more likely destined to a customer rather than film work, as at least two other of the BMFB He111s.
Mark
By: Arm Waver - 16th April 2004 at 12:12
Thanks for that… I didn’t think it was connected but the mind does toy with you!
By: Eric Mc - 16th April 2004 at 11:35
It was being delivered to Blackbushe for I think (Doug Arnold?). The year was 1977. I’m sure it would have ended up being used for film purposes.
By: Arm Waver - 16th April 2004 at 10:05
Was the “111” that Neil Williams lost in en-route to the UK for filming or was that a later thing?
By: trumper - 16th April 2004 at 10:03
Originally posted by crazymainer
The BoB pilots that was lost was,Don Lanzo the Spanish pilot was Killed on Jan. 20 1968 near Tablada Airfield. He was a big war Hero in Spain fought in Russia during the War.
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Hope this helps out some
I am going through my grey braincells [ouch] and i seem to remember reading in a book about the Making of the B o B film that one of the 109’S suffered an electrical failure en route and ,oh hang on i’ll go up in the loft and see if i can find it,—-ok ive dusted myself down now.Right according to the book a 109 and a he111 were stranded in Spain and a 109 suffered electrical failure and low fuel and had to make a visual clearence with the control tower at Duxford to confirm his Gear was down ok before he landed.
Must’ve been a wonderful sight and sound as they emerged over Duxford 🙂
By: DazDaMan - 16th April 2004 at 08:51
No idea, but there are photos of it.
In fact, I have one of a tipped up Spitfire, this time SM411 (another MkXVI). There was a discussion about tipped-up Spits in the movie a while ago, and I think there were two (although if you find the thread, that’ll probably correct me!).
By: Dave Homewood - 16th April 2004 at 08:47
Originally posted by DazDaMan
Let’s not forget Spitfire TE384 tipping up on her nose at North Weald during the filming of Battle after the application of a bit to much brake…
Did they get that one on film? Would have been great to use in the movie.
By: DazDaMan - 16th April 2004 at 08:33
Let’s not forget Spitfire TE384 tipping up on her nose at North Weald during the filming of Battle after the application of a bit to much brake…
By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2004 at 23:12
Talking of deliberate crashes for the camera, dare I mention the two Mosquitoes which were deliberately crashed and burned in the making of 633 Squadron…?
By: crazymainer - 15th April 2004 at 22:27
The BoB pilots that was lost was,
Don Lanzo the Spanish pilot was Killed on Jan. 20 1968 near Tablada Airfield. He was a big war Hero in Spain fought in Russia during the War.
In Zeppelin their were four deaths One of the SE% collied with the production Helicopter over Dublin Bay in the fall of 1970 killing the SE5 pilot and the tree people on the Chopper.
In Tora Tora Tora their were two deaths both invovling the Vals. the first killed Jack Canary who at the time was the Director of Air Ops. for the movie. The second one was when one of the Vals. came apart over Pearl harbor during a simulated dive-bombing run. Also during the movie one of the P-40 replica’s goes out of control and smash’s into the Petrol Tank this is still in the Movie.
In Darling Lili their was’nt any deaths but one of the stunt pilots ended up in the Hospital for six months when the SE5 he was flying flipped over and cart-wheeled.
Hope this helps out some
By: DazDaMan - 15th April 2004 at 21:28
The Val apparently flew into some bad air during a formation flypast and hit a tree – not sure, but I think the pilot was more or less OK, just really annoyed to be missing the rest of the filming.
There were two other accidents of note during the making of Battle of Britain – one Buchon crashed just prior to filming, resulting in the loss of the pilot (whose name I can’t recall at the moment), and another Buchon groundlooped and was written off as spares at Duxford.
By: Chad Veich - 15th April 2004 at 20:17
There was a replica Val lost during the filming of “Pearl Harbor” and how about Mantz intentionally belly landing a B-17 for “12 O’clock High”? Not an accident per se but a wrecked B-17 for film purposes anyway.
By: DazDaMan - 15th April 2004 at 17:38
Couldn’t find a photo of her in her film colours, which A*roplane Monthly stated were never actually worn by a Messerschmitt in wartime…
They were wrong…! 😀
By: Learning_Slowly - 15th April 2004 at 17:31
AAIB got it wrong then… I thought it was a Buchon. Then I am frequently incorrect.
By: DazDaMan - 15th April 2004 at 17:31
The sharp end
By: DazDaMan - 15th April 2004 at 17:29
NX700E is a Buchon, although the lower engine cowling was modified to more closely resemble a DB-engined aircraft.
By: Learning_Slowly - 15th April 2004 at 17:12
Originally posted by Archer
The landing incident that grounded the Buchon during the filming of Pearl Harbour can be found in the AAIB archives here .
Confused now… I know it doesn’t take much 😀
The AAIB say it is a 109G, with a Merlin engine. Are they wrong or ? Daz?
By: Eric Mc - 15th April 2004 at 16:48
As far as I was aware, “Zeppelin” was not filmed in Ireland whereas “Darling Lili”, “The Blue Max” and “The Red Baron” were.
“Darling Lili” is definitely a 1970 film so it does fit into the right timeframe and the right location.