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Filming mock ups, where are they?

Hi there,

Yesterday eveing I read the book: how they made piece of cake from cover to cover and enjoyed it very much. Some of the pics show the mock ups made by Feggans Brown including fuselage section to film pilot’s in all sorts of positions;). Similar for Memphis Belle sections of B17 were constructed and of course the daddy of them all: Battle of Britain for which a lot of full size SPits, Hurri’s and 109’s were built (and one full size Heinkel?).

What happed to these mock ups? Are they in museums or were they destroyed after filming.

Cheers

Cees

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By: Radpoe Meteor - 5th September 2008 at 11:16

Aeroventure has a Waco Hadrian cockpit from Saving Private Ryan, does that count?

Going off very slightly, does anyone know what happened to the CASA III cockpit & centre section that we used to have at Firbeck? I know it went to Germany, but that was the last I heard of it.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 5th September 2008 at 11:14

it has been a few years since i have been to the Kent BoB museum(hawkinge to me!), my main gripe is the fact they seem to close all winter, would be nice if the stayed open through out on a sunday or something similar.

There are a few replicas from ‘flyboys’ at Manston air museum, well worth checking out if your in the area(next to the spitfire and hurricane museum)

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By: Archer - 5th September 2008 at 07:58

Thanks for clearing that up TT, it makes more sense to me now. Personally I wouldn’t have guessed that this would happen! 😮

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 4th September 2008 at 16:47

Nice people, we helped them with bits for their Harvard.

They are well aware that their ‘no photography’ rule rankles- but its there for a specific reason – several items have been stolen to order from their displays, including IIRC a ‘109 grip (and rudder) and some uniform items.

(I remember Bob Collis at Flixton telling me that years ago a chap had a razor blade hidden under his finger nail and was using it to cut off insignia from uniforms outside cabinets at Flixton!)

Therefore the no photo rule is not for profiteering – ie forcing you to buy a guidebook but rather simply to stop people photographing specific items emailing them to ‘clients’ then arranging for local n’er do wells to break in and nick them, with photos to tell them what to take.

I have sympathy for their position to be honest, but understand a visitors frustration.

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By: Archer - 4th September 2008 at 16:14

One of the Piece of Cake Spitfires is preserved in Best, Holland. Just had a look at the site of the Kent BOB Museum, but there is a lot of “no’s” (no camera’s, no video, no notebooks) involved when paying a vistit overthere. Well, they must have there reasons, but under those “rules”, I have “no” interest in paying a visit. BW Roger

I went there a few years ago and while it was an interesting visit, I found the rules needlessly restrictive. It is quite a nice museum but they could lighten up a bit, or at least make up for the ‘no photos’ bit by providing photos or postcards for sale. I recall that they had a few but they weren’t that great.

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By: MarkG - 2nd September 2008 at 09:13

I believe the Jet Age Museum had a Hurricane replica from the film. With the on-going problems they have with premises I don’t know if they still have it.

Anyone know?

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By: EHVB - 2nd September 2008 at 09:06

One of the Piece of Cake Spitfires is preserved in Best, Holland. Just had a look at the site of the Kent BOB Museum, but there is a lot of “no’s” (no camera’s, no video, no notebooks) involved when paying a vistit overthere. Well, they must have there reasons, but under those “rules”, I have “no” interest in paying a visit. BW Roger

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By: Hampden Project - 2nd September 2008 at 08:44

I like the looks of that. It would be fun to sit in and make aeroplane noises.:D

Is it really just a mockup or a section from an actual aircraft?

Yes it is really a mock up, it is made from mild steel ( I have a photo of it being constructed at Pinewood ) the pilots and observers seats , rudder pedals, control column and hydraulics control box are out of a Spanish Heinkel, the instument panel might be genuine Heinkel.

Sit in it when Just Jane is doing one of her high power run ups and you dont have to make any noises !

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By: J Boyle - 2nd September 2008 at 04:59

The Heinkel cockpit mock up built by Pinewood Studios for the Battle Of Britain film…

I like the looks of that. It would be fun to sit in and make aeroplane noises.:D

Is it really just a mockup or a section from an actual aircraft?

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By: GrahamF - 2nd September 2008 at 00:30

BOB replicas

Hi there,

Yesterday eveing I read the book: how they made piece of cake from cover to cover and enjoyed it very much. Some of the pics show the mock ups made by Feggans Brown including fuselage section to film pilot’s in all sorts of positions;). Similar for Memphis Belle sections of B17 were constructed and of course the daddy of them all: Battle of Britain for which a lot of full size SPits, Hurri’s and 109’s were built (and one full size Heinkel?).

What happed to these mock ups? Are they in museums or were they destroyed after filming.

Cheers

Cees

The Norfolk and Suffolk aviation museum at Flixton
has a Spitfire from the BoB movie, its in a pretty ropey state
but safe, this is not due to neglect just the temporary nature
of its construction!

Graham

PS the TD248 recreation is worth a look though.

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By: alanl - 31st August 2008 at 21:18

I think private individuals snapped some of the replicas up. I’m pretty sure there is an ex-Piece of Cake Spit that frequently pops up on here.

This could be the the example at Wellesbourne in Warwickshire.

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By: Dave Homewood - 31st August 2008 at 09:24

After repeated calls by people like Lesley Hunt for the RAF to donate a Hurricane to New Zealand for a museum so this country could commemorate NZ’s efforts in the Battle of Britain, etc, in the end Sir Keith Park arranged for one of the fake Hurricanes to come to New Zealand. It originally went to the Museum of Transport and Technology in Auckland. However it was stored outdoors as a gate guard and was badly damaged by idiot vandals.

Eventually it was purchased by another group and replaced at MOTAT (they now have a new replica as gate guard) and the Battle of Britain film aircraft moved to Omaka where it was restored into desert colours. About a year or two later it reverted to Battle of britain colours in the scheme of a Marlborough-born ace who’s name escapes me and it is now well cared for at the AHC in Omaka.

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By: Mondariz - 31st August 2008 at 06:15

Nice to see she still work in the movies.

Although she never gets invited around to fancy premiers :p

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By: Hampden Project - 30th August 2008 at 18:02

The Heinkel cockpit mock up built by Pinewood Studios for the Battle Of Britain film, is with the Lincolnshire Aviation Preservation Society at East Kirkby, and appeared in the opening sequence of The Tails Of Narnia , The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe , made by Disney Studios, where it gained a wooden mock up bomb bay section. (to be filmed from the inside only)
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By: mark_pilkington - 30th August 2008 at 06:11

The Memphis Belle mockup sections of B17 are in storage in Australia.

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By: DazDaMan - 29th August 2008 at 09:26

Some of the Battle of Britain mock-ups reside at the Kent Battle of Britain Museum, I think.

I think private individuals snapped some of the replicas up. I’m pretty sure there is an ex-Piece of Cake Spit that frequently pops up on here.

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By: Digger - 29th August 2008 at 07:50

We had one of the Spits at 1924 Sqn. ATC Shirley, Surrey. Don’t know if they still have it…

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By: Mondariz - 29th August 2008 at 07:33

The BoB models (or some of them), can be located in “Wrecks & Relics”. IIRC they are marked FSM for “full scale model”.

If you don’t have the book, I will try to locate some for you.

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