November 16, 2006 at 4:41 pm
Amazing, the first B.777 to be scrapped is only eleven years old. C/n 27109 was G-ZZZE, PP-VRD and now N703BA originally owned by B.A. 😮
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By: Bmused55 - 4th December 2006 at 06:45
How does that work, surely it could of made far much more revenue over say another 9-10 years, and then be sold (albeit for less than it would be now) as spare parts, would that not make more, or are B777 parts that valuable?
As witnessed by the scrapping of a fairly young A320, when an aicraft model is in high demand, sometimes parting out can bring in more cash than finding a new owner.
If a aircraft model/ family are in high enough demand brand new, then parting out relatively young aircraft that are entering the second or third hand markets makes more sense than paying for an overhaul and putting them back out to work. Its all about the biggest return on ones investment.
By: symon - 3rd December 2006 at 19:36
In terms of range, what is the difference between a 777-200 and 777-200ER?
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_200product.html
Approx 2520naut.miles/4667km
By: T5 - 3rd December 2006 at 15:41
In terms of range, what is the difference between a 777-200 and 777-200ER?
By: Skymonster - 3rd December 2006 at 13:27
The other of the two ex-BA/ex-Khalifa/ex-Varig 777-200s is being remarketed, so there must be something more with the one that’s being parted out (up against a major check maybe?) that mitigates against it being resold for further service.
Andy
By: Dantheman77 - 3rd December 2006 at 03:37
The 777 thats being scrapped is one of the original “A” market model I.E. a non ER version, and powered by the GE90-76B, which i’m told that this combo is a rarity. And BA has only 5? remaining, all the rest being 777-200ER models powered by Rolls Royce
After 24263 hours and 5170 cycles with BA it was sold to Boeing in June 2002 and stored for several months as N703BA. In December 2002 it was prepared for entering service with Khalifa Airways.
By: wozza - 2nd December 2006 at 16:16
Its most likely in good servicable nick, just worth more in parts. Which I could believe, with the 777 being very popular.
How does that work, surely it could of made far much more revenue over say another 9-10 years, and then be sold (albeit for less than it would be now) as spare parts, would that not make more, or are B777 parts that valuable?
By: Grey Area - 18th November 2006 at 15:35
I’d forgotten Orion Airways……………… 😮
Dan Dare’s original -300 was G-SCUH (l/n 1107) delivered on 2/5/1985.
The Air Europe -300s all came along quite a bit later than G-SCUH, their first being G-BMTE delivered on 10/2/1987.
I’ll gladly grant you that Orion Airways were the first UK operator of the B737-300. G-BLKB was delivered on 29/1/1985, beating Dan Dare’s G-SCUH into service by a good 3 months.
Dan Air were the first UK operator of the B737-300, by the way. Apart from Orion Airways. 😀
By: by738 - 18th November 2006 at 15:19
Dan Air were the first UK operator of the B737-300, by the way. 🙂
I was sure it was Orion Airways
“The British Civil Aviation Authority granted certification on Jan. 29, 1985, the same day that Orion Airways of Great Britain became the first non-U.S. customer to take delivery.”
By: Skymonster - 18th November 2006 at 14:10
Dan Air were the first UK operator of the B737-300, by the way. 🙂
No too… Orion was the first UK operator of the 733 (and I think Air Europe was the second, actually)
Andy
By: Tartan Pics - 17th November 2006 at 19:33
“Would have been” 😉
Mmm well, depends on a point of view that really, officially the aircraft is in storage(given that it looks extremely unlikely to ever fly again) as it has not been scrapped or destroyed it still ages?? no? ( a bit like myself…knackered but yet i still age 😀 ) 🙂
By: Bmused55 - 17th November 2006 at 18:52
Nope, incorrect. Dan Air never went anywhere near an A320 (or even an Airbus for that matter, except for two or three ex-Hapag Lloyd A300s). Dan Air’s short haul fleet was BAe146s and 737s, before that BAC 1-11s and 727s.
As far as British Caledonian A320s were concerned, the first (G-BRSA ntu) was painted in FULL B.Cal colours, but was re-reallocated to G-BUSB and repainted in British Airways colours prior to delivery.
Andy
I knew there was an A320 in full Bcal colours.
I might just paint one of my templates up to match… got a taste for it
By: Grey Area - 17th November 2006 at 15:10
I agree with Skymonster and Agent K. Dan Air were never a customer for the A320.
They did operate the A300, though. Perhaps that’s why Kevin associates Dan Air with Airbus?
Dan Air were the first UK operator of the B737-300, by the way. 🙂
By: Skymonster - 17th November 2006 at 14:59
Some were Bcal and some Dan Air with them being delivered after the takovers it hard to figure out which ones which
Nope, incorrect. Dan Air never went anywhere near an A320 (or even an Airbus for that matter, except for two or three ex-Hapag Lloyd A300s). Dan Air’s short haul fleet was BAe146s and 737s, before that BAC 1-11s and 727s.
As far as British Caledonian A320s were concerned, the first (G-BRSA ntu) was painted in FULL B.Cal colours, but was re-reallocated to G-BUSB and repainted in British Airways colours prior to delivery.
Andy
By: Agent K - 17th November 2006 at 14:51
Some were Bcal and some Dan Air with them being delivered after the takovers it hard to figure out which ones which
DAN Air never operated A320’s, the Airbus BA aquired were all ordered by BCAL G-BUSB – BUSK, 5 x 100’s and 5 x 200’s. BA aquired some B737-400’s from DAN air after the takeover.
By: kevinwm - 17th November 2006 at 14:30
I think you mean BCal, though in fact they were delivered to BA after the two companies merged.
Some were Bcal and some Dan Air with them being delivered after the takovers it hard to figure out which ones which
By: kevinwm - 17th November 2006 at 14:28
Woah.
Either they have a very low cycle limit or BA really worked them hard.
It would tie in with the 5B-DAT in the picture , it was 18 years old as well,
My first reaction to them being withdrawn was to speculate that they would all be off to the African Subcontinent , but I was surprised when told they were to be scrapped especially being of younger age ( if you known what i mean)
Remember these 320 have been used for most of their lives on shuttle duties with maybe at most 2 hours flying per sector would give them a possible 6-8 landings and takeoffs per day and over the years roughly 52416 landing -takeoffs in their life times
By: Agent K - 17th November 2006 at 13:09
One appeared for a short while in Bcal livery.
Best looking A320 I’ve ever seen
Not one of the delivered ones however, one of the prototypes appeared in the colours of the launch customers, one half was painted in Air France colours and the other half BCAL. It visited LGW and BCAL in 1987 I think.