Flypast / Aeroplane Monthly

More feedback on the 727 article in Aeroplane Monthly Jan 2015..
With the Da Nang evacuation and the incidents appended below it could be considered battle hardened

In a failed coup d’etat in 1972, a Royal Air Maroc 727 carrying King Hassan II survived a shoot-down attempt by 4 Moroccan Air Force F-5s though the 727 was riddled with some 180 holes and lost two engines and hydraulics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenitra_Air_Base
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r101:S04AU9-B1191:

And a TWA 727 near Greece survived a bomb which blew a large hole in the fuselage
http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/42-28809892/bomb-explosion-on-twa-flight
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1986/Boeing-727s-Pretty-Tough-Birds-Airliner-s-Maker-Says-With-PM-Plane-Bomb-Bjt/id-79c3c81d0bb2ccdcfb7c7e34375d93bb

Mexicana had -200s with JATO bottles…not sure how long they were used for

I have a notion it was considered (perhaps briefly) for COD on the Super Carriers…as was the Fokker/Fairchild F-28 I think.

Fab reading about Flapjack

I did note that the latest FP has picked up its skirts as well. I thought it was a lot better than had been the case recently.

Bruce

Yep, it’s the magazine with the articles I want read. Flypast is now only read for the news. Will be interesting to see what Ben has taken on board and changes (as per editorial ) in the next issue.

Just opened my digital pages. Superb cross section of really interesting material. Can’t wait to get stuck in to the Shack and DAS and “Flapjack” and the 188 and the rest!! Well done, Ben, again!!:eagerness:

Aeroplane February issue: wow. So much good material to get through. RAFM, Shackleton, Pilot Proflie and DAS articles, all intensely interesting. The RAFM piece in particular I single out for its outstanding critical analysis. I’ve had no time yet to read the 188 article but am looking forward to it. Well done team.

Spot on – thats one thing Ben does – gives an opinion – I wholeheartedly agree I think he has given Aeroplane the kick up the backside it needed – I hope the Monopolies Commission stuff dies a death and it can continue!

TT

Aeroplane February issue: wow. So much good material to get through. RAFM, Shackleton, Pilot Proflie and DAS articles, all intensely interesting. The RAFM piece in particular I single out for its outstanding critical analysis. I’ve had no time yet to read the 188 article but am looking forward to it. Well done team.

A bit late to catch up but…..

What an improvement, Aeroplane really has a much more ‘grown up ‘ feel to it and some much more elegant fonts used.

I felt the typeface on the Pete Kynsey article a touch on the small side, but the overall changes are very welcome, and make the product very much more attractive.

Ben has been running this http://wingsofhistory.net for a while and I have enjoyed many well written and researched features and reports.

Sad job about Paul Coggan, didn’t realise that the demise of Warbirds Worldwide had compromised his health, such a shame as he was quite young when he died.

Too young certanly.

Always looked forward to it’s arrival and I had every issue from the first till last and still have them.

Glad to hear it! It would be good to excavate more articles too.

As you rightly point out it probably wouldn’t work nowadays, which is a shame. That is progress I suppose.

Indeed. Some things are good, but the major feature articles and insight’s been replaced by instant news gratification in small chunks. However I believe that Ben Dunnell will be looking to publish more thinking material in a revitalised Aeroplane, so if you like it, support it. And yes, there’s another The Aviation Historian in the playground too. 😉

Regards,

Nice to see positive comment on Warbirds Worldwide as well as Aeroplane under Ben’s command. Good things likely from that man.

Warbirds Worldwide was something I am proud to have been involved with. The positive feedback is very encouraging, so many years on.

However it wouldn’t happen today. It was a piece of its era. Had it, and Paul Coggan (the publisher and editor) survived, it would be in a very different form I’m sure. And Paul would still be with us, much more important to his family and friends.

Thanks. And let the sub thing go, please.

I lost a lot more than a subscription when the business folded up, Paul’s health was badly compromised and there’s no doubt his early death was hastened in part by the stress of trying to keep the thing afloat. It irritates, I appreciate. It’s not a big deal.

On other matters;
Dates so the far reaches of the Empire felt included? Even Kipling got his papers from Britain late in India. Never been a date adjustment. Moggy’s comment is however correct.

And I know I can be a bit antediluvian in my aircraft tastes, but the 727 really isn’t modern anymore! Aeroplane‘s readership used to include a lot of BOAC (and about) crew-types, it’s bang on one core critical readership.

Regards,

Sad job about Paul Coggan, didn’t realise that the demise of Warbirds Worldwide had compromised his health, such a shame as he was quite young when he died.
Always looked forward to it’s arrival and I had every issue from the first till last and still have them.
As you rightly point out it probably wouldn’t work nowadays, which is a shame. That is progress I suppose.

I enjoyed IT very much. Thank you for the link.

Here’s a sample of a Warbirds Worldwide article I published on my blog, with OFMCo permission, written by the late Mark Hanna.

It’s a great piece (and very popular on the web).

http://vintageaeroplanewriter.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/skip-bombing-p-51s-in-empire-of-sun.html

Enjoy.

Nice to see positive comment on Warbirds Worldwide as well as Aeroplane under Ben’s command. Good things likely from that man.

Warbirds Worldwide was something I am proud to have been involved with. The positive feedback is very encouraging, so many years on.

However it wouldn’t happen today. It was a piece of its era. Had it, and Paul Coggan (the publisher and editor) survived, it would be in a very different form I’m sure. And Paul would still be with us, much more important to his family and friends.

So do I. I have every issue and had renewed my subscription one week prior to it going “bust”. They owe me … :rolleyes: … !

Thanks. And let the sub thing go, please.

I lost a lot more than a subscription when the business folded up, Paul’s health was badly compromised and there’s no doubt his early death was hastened in part by the stress of trying to keep the thing afloat. It irritates, I appreciate. It’s not a big deal.

On other matters;
Dates so the far reaches of the Empire felt included? Even Kipling got his papers from Britain late in India. Never been a date adjustment. Moggy’s comment is however correct.

And I know I can be a bit antediluvian in my aircraft tastes, but the 727 really isn’t modern anymore! Aeroplane‘s readership used to include a lot of BOAC (and about) crew-types, it’s bang on one core critical readership.

Regards,

Good photos of a classic jet – thanks for posting.

I must admit to rather liking the new look Aeroplane monthly although modern civil aircraft do bore me. I would rather the early days of air travel. As for Flypasts cover of a B17 as a tribute to Bomber Command what the blazes were they thinking of.
I buy both publications each month but Aeroplane was the winner to me this month(sorry better put current edition before I confuse myself and wonder if I enjoyed Christmas).

Some feedback on the 727 piece….worth linking to the newsreel of the World Airways evacuation flight from a Da Nang taxiway with grenade and gunfire damage and CEO Ed Daly personally clearing those under tail rear stairs…
Bruce Dunning/CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/dunnings-frantic-flight/
or embedded in
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/03/1296651/-A-Fond-Farewell-to-World-Airways-looted-by-Dan-Quayle .

The 727s rear stairs under the tail entered American Folklore with the story of Dan ‘DB’ Cooper who hijacked a NorthWest 727 in 1971 then parachuted into history from the tail with $200,000 ransom money in $20 bills some of which was found in a riverbed years later
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper

Pan Am crewed Ariana Afghan 727 which crashed short of Gatwick winter 1968/1969

TAP and Olympic 727s landing Heathrow RWY05R, 1971

They were smoky and Wardair, Sterling and other non-scheds flew them transatlantic

They followed the Caravelle at Air France

Alitalia first Boeing type mid-70s , threshold RWY10R LHR

The reference to the RR Spey being considered for the 727 at the project stage is most interesting.
, possibly reads across to the new Aeroplane DH Trident special?

Pleased to be of help. It’s fairly expensive but doesn’t carry much advertising, unlike AM which was starting to get overrun with adverts. The website is very useful to see what’s coming up in future editions. I have to say I don’t have any connection with it other than as a satisfied customer

Sabrejet, you presumably haven’t read “Aviation Historian” yet then?

Ozplane: many thanks for the heads-up on that one: No idea how I missed this and it looks exactly what I was looking for!

SJ

I must ask if the Sun or the Times or any other “daily newspaper” distribute their wednesday issue on mondays? I mean, why does FlyPast distribute their january issue in november?

Dear Christer, that’s because you should have something to read during the Christmas Holidays 😉
Season’s Greetings to all and sundry!