Focke Wulf flies!!

Been away from the pc for a couple of days, but what fabulous news to return to! Congratulations to all at FlugWerk on their achievement. And a thought for Hans-Gunther Wildmoser, who passed away last year and sadly never saw his 190’s fly…

[QUOTE=James D
There is, I suppose nothing to stop me getting hold of a dataplate, and going to Flugwerk and asking them to ‘restore’ and re-engine my aircraft. (apart from money!)[/QUOTE]

For a UK Permit application to stand any chance it would need to have an original BMW engine too.

[QUOTE=Papa Lima]”I was making those comments in the context of a new-build Typhoon replica with a new-build Sabre replica engine. I agree that if you owned an aeroplane and engine with historical provenance you would be in with a shout. Although not capable of getting a C of A, a rebuilt Typhoon would in principle be eligible for a CAA Permit to Fly in the ex-military category. But completely new one would not, because of not being an ex-military aeroplane. QUOTE]

So thats what they need those dataplates for!

There is, I suppose nothing to stop me getting hold of a dataplate, and going to Flugwerk and asking them to ‘restore’ and re-engine my aircraft. (apart from money!)

Anyway – hats off to Flugwerk for pulling this off. It looks amazing – and as someone said, very long legged! I am still amazed that this is allowed to fly in Germany – a country that isn´t exactly famous for its lack of bureaucracy – but not in the UK.

Anyway – I don´t care – I live in Germany!

i think the engines are chinese copys of wright cyclones or pratt and whitneys

Shame, I love the sound the purring BMW…so accurately recreated in the PC game WWII FIGHTERS from Janes.

Looks great. I hope to see some of these planes at airshows on the continent as La Ferte-Alais! 😎

J.V.

Crazymainer,

Homebuilt regulation is far tighter here than in the USA. We’re not allowed to bring in US-constructed homebuilts and fly them on their Experimental US tickets or their N registrations. Importing a US-constructed homebuilt is possible (though discouraged) by the PFA as there is no guarantee that the importer will ever be able to fly it. In practice, if it’s a well built, standard example of a homebuilt which is on the PFA’s approved list (e.g. a Vans RV4), it can given a very thorough inspection, maywell be issued with a list of required modifications to bring it up to UK approved status, amnd can then be re-registered as G-XXXX and flown on a Permit to Fly under PFA rules (the PFA is the homebuilders’ body here which recommends homebuilt types as suitable or unsuitable for issue of a Permit as a type.) The PFA has strict weight and power limits so a homebuilt can only get a permit if it is relatively light and low-powered. Incidentally, we are not allowed to fly in IMC or at night in homebuilts, nor are we allowed to overfly any settlement or town, and many types which are legally aerobatic in their country of origin are not permitted to do aerobatics here.
Permits may be had for certain vintage and ex military aeroplanes outside the homebuilt limits, but they have to be accepted by the CAA as genuinely vintage or ex military.
Chapter and verse on the issue of Permits and the operation of aircraft on Permits can be found here (CAA CAP 733)

Say if I register the 190 in the States and got a FAA Permit to Fly under Limited Cat. can I then bring it to the UK and fly it.
The reason I ask is how some of the Home Builds IE StarDuster, Long EZ, new Waco UPFs ect. can get a permit to fly from the CAA but they will not let the new build FW190.

The Butcher Birds have wings and can fly again, Top Stuff, Lets see what else will be next, Still love to see and hear a real tiffy fly again 🙁 , Tally Ho, :p Phil.

niiiiiice !!!! 🙂

she had long legs Graeme also looks like you’ll have to go abroad to see her fly.

all i can say is wow!!!! and im be looking forward to see at airshows.

once question tho, does the undercarrage on the fw190 look oversized for the size of the aircraft?

first flight

Download the action-packed first flight and witness the first “Butcher-Bird” take to the air again,
65 years after the end of its’ former career.

>>> wmv (dial up)
http://www.flugwerk.de/new/film/fw_190_airborne_128.wmv

>>> wmv (cable)
http://www.flugwerk.de/new/film/fw_190_airborne_768.wmv

>>> real player (cable)
http://www.flugwerk.de/new/film/fw_190_airborne_512.rm

>>> real player (dial up)
http://www.flugwerk.de/new/film/fw_190_airborne_128.rm

it does seem silly this

So Papa Lima,

Say if I register the 190 in the States and got a FAA Permit to Fly under Limited Cat. can I then bring it to the UK and fly it.

The reason I ask is how some of the Home Builds IE StarDuster, Long EZ, new Waco UPFs ect. can get a permit to fly from the CAA but they will not let the new build FW190.

Cheers

James D, I think this extract from an earlier post by “Lowtimer” applies regarding the CAA’s position vis-a-vis “old” and “new” airframes:
“I was making those comments in the context of a new-build Typhoon replica with a new-build Sabre replica engine. I agree that if you owned an aeroplane and engine with historical provenance you would be in with a shout. Although not capable of getting a C of A, a rebuilt Typhoon would in principle be eligible for a CAA Permit to Fly in the ex-military category. But completely new one would not, because of not being an ex-military aeroplane. Nor would it be eligible for a PFA Permit to Fly because of being way outside the PFA criteria.
This may seem peculiar but it is analagous to the situation with Yaks,for example. I am allowed to fly a fairly elderly Yak-52 on a CAA Permit because it is an ex military aeroplane. I am not allowed to run a newly manufactured Aerostar Yak-52TW on a CAA permit because it has no military service. However, if I have my old 52 subjected to a major mod by Yak UK / Termikas to convert it to a similar tailwheel configuration, I can have it on a CAA Permit because it’s still regarded as an ex military aeroplane. May not make a lot of sense, but that’s the way they run things.”

There was a tread on the new built FW planes which told us that they aren’t allowed by the CAA to fly in the UK for safety reasons. So I don’t think they can participate at the 2005 legends show. 🙁

J.V.

Can´t see why. If a largely original, sixty year old Me109, or an eighty year old Fokker is considered safe, then why not a brand new Focke Wulf? Is this the real reason why you need that data plate – so you are allowed to fly your ‘original’ aircraft? Besides, I´m sure the machine guns will be removed before the show!! 😀

There was a tread on the new built FW planes which told us that they aren’t allowed by the CAA to fly in the UK for safety reasons. So I don’t think they can participate at the 2005 legends show. 🙁

J.V.

The “Company Against Aviation” is alive and well then! 😉

I had a look at the Flugwerk website www.flugwerk.de, earlier & there was no mention there.

what a shame just hope we Glen laceys Dora appears soon as well as the rest of his private luftwaffe

a possible for legends 05?

There was a tread on the new built FW planes which told us that they aren’t allowed by the CAA to fly in the UK for safety reasons. So I don’t think they can participate at the 2005 legends show. 🙁

J.V.