FOR SALE – Mil 12 helicopter – Maybe?

This is a pic of the monster at Le Bourget 71, I wonder if it servived.

Two V-12’s were built – the first prototype is the one in your photo taken at Le Bourget.

It is the one now at Panki – and probably the one up for sale.

The second prototype is the one at Monino.

In summary, two built – two survive.

Ken

As an air traffic controller at Schiphol Airport Amsterdam, I handled the second prototype of the Mi-12 (CCCP-21142) in May 1971 on arrival for a fuelstop on its way to Le Bourget. It was a truely awesome sight!

It had also made a fuelstop at Groningen Airport Eelde that day; see this link http://www.crosswinds.net/~wolbrink for a picture and select Eelde 1970-1975 photo history.

This is a pic of the monster at Le Bourget 71, I wonder if it survived.

The Ilyushin Il -18 shown on the website was listed on Ebay a while ago !

As an air traffic controller at Schiphol Airport Amsterdam, I handled the second prototype of the Mi-12 (CCCP-21142) in May 1971 on arrival for a fuelstop on its way to Le Bourget. It was a truely awesome sight!

It had also made a fuelstop at Groningen Airport Eelde that day; see this link http://www.crosswinds.net/~wolbrink for a picture and select Eelde 1970-1975 photo history.

I think you are getting your Mi’s mixed up, sold is a Mi-24 not a Mi-12!:)

Yes – but ‘For Sale’ is a Mil Mi-12 – which is the subject of this thread.

See :- http://www.russiantruck.co.uk/air.html

Actually, to strictly correct, it isn’t a Mi-12 – but a Mil V-12.

But that is what the web site says is being negotiated…. 😮

Ken

It MUST be the one at the Mil plant at Panki…..:eek:

I can’t see the museum at Monino selling theirs ??:confused:

Ken

I think you are getting your Mi’s mixed up, sold is a Mi-24 not a Mi-12!:)

According to LOOP, the Mi-24 advertised on this site has been sold to a collector in Arizona. It is supposed to be restored to ‘running’ condition. Presumably this would not be the same as ‘flying’ condition?:confused:

http://www.russiantruck.co.uk/air2.html

It MUST be the one at the Mil plant at Panki…..:eek:

I can’t see the museum at Monino selling theirs ??:confused:

Ken

According to LOOP, the Mi-24 advertised on this site has been sold to a collector in Arizona. It is supposed to be restored to ‘running’ condition. Presumably this would not be the same as ‘flying’ condition?:confused:

http://www.russiantruck.co.uk/air2.html

Just watched that video clip – and the pilot cheerfully waves at his audience from the lower glazed cockpit (blue sliding window gives it away when you review the footage) – mystery why they fitted that upper glazing then. Does the Engineer really need that good a view?
Still a fantastic piece of engineering – I love it, and it just goes to show that not all Russian kit was a copy of our Western stuff……..:)

The upper ‘penthouse’ on the V-12 was the navigator’s station.

The pilot & co-pilot sat in the lower Mi-8 style glazing.

Ken

Just watched that video clip – and the pilot cheerfully waves at his audience from the lower glazed cockpit (blue sliding window gives it away when you review the footage) – mystery why they fitted that upper glazing then. Does the Engineer really need that good a view?
Still a fantastic piece of engineering – I love it, and it just goes to show that not all Russian kit was a copy of our Western stuff……..:)

One for the pilot , one for the navigator and engineer I think .

What was the purpose of the two cockpits? I assume the small one on top is the cockpit but what of the nose glazing it looks like a cockpit, i can’t see the russians putting in sightseeing windows.

And if you want to see it flying………WOW

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/birotor+/video/x21rf7_helicoptere-mil-mi12-russe_tech

Impressive beastie isnt it 😀 Bex

And if you want to see it flying………WOW

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/birotor+/video/x21rf7_helicoptere-mil-mi12-russe_tech

I see he used half his caravan as a cockpit!:D

Actually I was thinking it looks like a split screen VW camper van in my eyes….lol 😀 😀

Still – nice to know this beast is still around, as I remember being fascinated by it as a kid – had a poster of it somewhere too 😮

Amazing piece of machinery. However I wonder why the designer(s) went for all that heavy structure to mount the rotors out on the wing tips rather than fore and aft of the fuselage a la Chinook?

Roger Smith.

They did – one of the early project configurations for the V-12 was for a tandem rotor layout – but it was abandoned in favour of a side-by-side layout.

It’s all explained in Yefim Gordon’s ‘Mils Heavy Lift Helicopters’ – Vol 22 in the ‘Red Star’ series.

The tandem-rotor layout gave problems of rotor overlap, the fuselage had to be longer, the aft air intakes were in the wake of the front ones, less rate of climb, less ceiling etc etc – it’s all in the book.

Don’t forget, this machine was designed to lift 25 tonnes and have a cargo hold with the same dimensions as the Antonov An-22 😮

As built, the V-12 had the engines and rotors of TWO Mi-6’s – itself the biggest helicopter in the world at the time.

Ken

Amazing piece of machinery. However I wonder why the designer(s) went for all that heavy structure to mount the rotors out on the wing tips rather than fore and aft of the fuselage a la Chinook?

Roger Smith.

Because he’s Russian and they like to over engineer? Because he was a bridge builder in a previous life? I see he used half his caravan as a cockpit!:D

Amazing piece of machinery. However I wonder why the designer(s) went for all that heavy structure to mount the rotors out on the wing tips rather than fore and aft of the fuselage a la Chinook?

Roger Smith.

Thanks for that Tillerman, she clearly has no rotors and looks very white !! but she looks in one piece which is good.

For those without google earth

curlyboy

…and the second one was stored but was reportedly in a bad condition?

In an earlier post I placed a KMZ file (Google Earth) which shows the other remaninig Mi-12 stored at the factory:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1025253#post1025253

Tillerman.