October 19, 2014 at 10:43 am
The recent outbursts of intemperate language regarding the Hendon museum set me thinking about the 1960s when there was no such museum. In those days you could find various WWII survivors displayed at events at places like Biggin Hill, Gaydon and so on. Was it good fortune or good planning that resulted in the survival of examples of such types as the Me262, Me163, Bf110, Fw190, Ki100 and so on?
By: Tin Triangle - 20th October 2014 at 14:28
IIRC there was a tornado at Farnborough which caused absolute devastation to the collection of WW2 German types. No doubt the remains were taken to a scrap yard.
Regards
Well, I hope the guy who left a live Sidewinder on the Tornado’s weapons pylons got a right royal boll*cking! 😀
By: Orion - 20th October 2014 at 11:07
IIRC there was a tornado at Farnborough which caused absolute devastation to the collection of WW2 German types. No doubt the remains were taken to a scrap yard.
Regards
By: TwinOtter23 - 20th October 2014 at 10:16
Don’t forget from about these parts – “In November 1953 whilst operating as a sub-site to 93 MU, RAF Fulbeck housed the Air Historical Branch Collection of historical and captured aircraft. Many of these airframes are now displayed at site like the RAF Museum at Hendon, whilst some rare types were sadly scrapped.”
By: DaveF68 - 20th October 2014 at 10:12
Phil Buttler’s War Prizes book lists the fate of many, No47 MU at Sealand got a lot of them, and Brize Norton got others (Fw189 for example).
By: Tin Triangle - 19th October 2014 at 21:35
I hadn’t heard about the Dornier! I suppose it’s foolish to ask if any pictures exist of it in storage?
I do seem to recall a grainy shot of a Hampden and Boston in outside storage in the ’50s, which both eventually went the same way.
By: One of the Few - 19th October 2014 at 18:48
The survival of many is fortuitous, as although planned there were a lot of airframes stored for historical/museum purposes that were scrapped when space was needed in the late 40s/early50s.[/QUOTE]
The Do17Z that crash landed at RAF Rochford on 26th August 1940 being a prime example!. This was crated and put into storage until 1950 when it was scrapped. What a terrible shame. One aircraft that i thought would have been saved for museum purposes in 1940 was the Bf109E of Oblt. Franz Von Werra, after all it was an “aces” fighter which even for propaganda purposes alone would have been worth putting on display in a museum.
By: DaveF68 - 19th October 2014 at 12:29
The MOD Air Historical Branch had a remit for preserving certain airframes and used storage at several bases eg Biggin Hill. When the RAF museum was founded the ownership of these were transferred to the museum. I have a list of airframes in an RAF museum publication from the seventies which also notes that the aircraft of the BOB memorial flight whilst still on MOD charge were also part of the RAF museum reserve collection.
Many of them were only loaned to RAFM and remained in MOD ownership until donated to the RAFM the late 90s (The individual histories on the RAF Museum website gives details – e.g. Bf109E, Bf110G ).
The survival of many is fortuitous, as although planned there were a lot of airframes stored for historical/museum purposes that were scrapped when space was needed in the late 40s/early50s.
By: scotavia - 19th October 2014 at 12:22
The MOD Air Historical Branch had a remit for preserving certain airframes and used storage at several bases eg Biggin Hill. When the RAF museum was founded the ownership of these were transferred to the museum. I have a list of airframes in an RAF museum publication from the seventies which also notes that the aircraft of the BOB memorial flight whilst still on MOD charge were also part of the RAF museum reserve collection.
By: Mark12 - 19th October 2014 at 11:41
Back in 1959 the Royal Aeronautical Society Historical Group produced a paper and listing of significant aircraft in the UK.
I have an early generation copy on ‘x2 foolscap’ that has almost faded to oblivion. I will try and recover and enhance it…and post it later today.
Mark