Does anyone happen to know ??.
Do Royal naval aircraft have the equivalent of the form 700 for airframe history and where are they held if held after an aircraft leaves service ?? The RAF ones I think are held at Hendon.
And would engine log cards be likely to be kept on file after an aircraft leaves the service or would they be destroyed ??.
mike E
By: Firebex - 25th September 2012 at 22:32
Thanks for the input guys.No she sadly wont be flying but we are intending to try our best to get her as close as possible its just it would be nice to try to find any mod information and engine info to help our specialist guys to know where they are at without just lighting the blue touch paper and hopefully retiring without incident.
Mike E
By: Firebex - 25th September 2012 at 22:32
Thanks for the input guys.No she sadly wont be flying but we are intending to try our best to get her as close as possible its just it would be nice to try to find any mod information and engine info to help our specialist guys to know where they are at without just lighting the blue touch paper and hopefully retiring without incident.
Mike E
By: JT442 - 25th September 2012 at 22:24
Rigga is quite right – logs are normally destroyed after the aircraft is struck off charge, unless it is intended that the aircraft is to be sold, in which case the logs for the fitted components should be included in the sale.
For example, it is unlikely that the log cards for the Jaguars at Everetts exist (I HOPE I’m wrong), which would mean that each lifed component (anything other than certified as ‘on condition’) would have to be removed, inspected and re-certified before a Permit to fly or C of A could be issued.
I assume this relates to your Sea Vampire which was on charge with the RN. They used F700’s too (MOD F700). IF they exist, they would probably be located at Gosport, but given that the aircraft was SOC so many years ago, its unlikely that they have survived. Best break out the spanners and a licensed engineer if you intend to fly it, but if you’re just ground running, then it isn’t an aircraft. No certification needed!
By: JT442 - 25th September 2012 at 22:24
Rigga is quite right – logs are normally destroyed after the aircraft is struck off charge, unless it is intended that the aircraft is to be sold, in which case the logs for the fitted components should be included in the sale.
For example, it is unlikely that the log cards for the Jaguars at Everetts exist (I HOPE I’m wrong), which would mean that each lifed component (anything other than certified as ‘on condition’) would have to be removed, inspected and re-certified before a Permit to fly or C of A could be issued.
I assume this relates to your Sea Vampire which was on charge with the RN. They used F700’s too (MOD F700). IF they exist, they would probably be located at Gosport, but given that the aircraft was SOC so many years ago, its unlikely that they have survived. Best break out the spanners and a licensed engineer if you intend to fly it, but if you’re just ground running, then it isn’t an aircraft. No certification needed!
By: Rigga - 25th September 2012 at 21:30
I’m not sure why you might think that all Aircraft Records are held at Hendon – I would imagine (and I acknowledge that I may be completely wrong!) that “some” technical records may be held there but not that many in reality, and probably only those particular to the exhibits or of some historic note.
In days of yore the F700 records for most aircraft records could (and would) be destroyed after a certain period (e.g. Component jobcards held in maintenance bays were destroyed after 1 year). Records were also routinely destroyed after the 2nd Major maintenance check retaining only the last check in archives and starting to build more archives from that check onward.
Engineering Record Cards/Assembly Record Cards/Component Record Cards (I think F735 & F749 & ?) were also routinely destroyed when the Part/Assembly/Component was scrapped. Items surviving with Record Cards are probably quite rare.
Engine Logs were treated like F700’s and “old” archives would have been destroyed after a repeated maintenance cycle.
Therfore: some records may have survived, most may not have survived.
By: Rigga - 25th September 2012 at 21:30
I’m not sure why you might think that all Aircraft Records are held at Hendon – I would imagine (and I acknowledge that I may be completely wrong!) that “some” technical records may be held there but not that many in reality, and probably only those particular to the exhibits or of some historic note.
In days of yore the F700 records for most aircraft records could (and would) be destroyed after a certain period (e.g. Component jobcards held in maintenance bays were destroyed after 1 year). Records were also routinely destroyed after the 2nd Major maintenance check retaining only the last check in archives and starting to build more archives from that check onward.
Engineering Record Cards/Assembly Record Cards/Component Record Cards (I think F735 & F749 & ?) were also routinely destroyed when the Part/Assembly/Component was scrapped. Items surviving with Record Cards are probably quite rare.
Engine Logs were treated like F700’s and “old” archives would have been destroyed after a repeated maintenance cycle.
Therfore: some records may have survived, most may not have survived.
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