Forum trip to de Havilland Museum in December

Co-ordinating museum visit

Nice to see so many people interested…I was beginning to feel like ‘the only aeroplane enthusiast in the village’ (with apologies to Little Britain) :diablo: .

Bruce, I am happy to co-ordinate:

– would everyone interested like to ‘pm’ me so I can give Bruce an idea of numbers nearer the time?

Cheers

DS

Bruce.

Just the chance to visit is appreciated. Photographs would be an added bonus. I’m sure I can say that we are all grateful for the opportunity to visit at a time when you are normally closed.

Regards,

kev35

We are around until about 4pm over the winter. I am suggesting that people aim to arrive from 11am. Anyone around much after 4 will get locked in!

As I said earlier, bear in mind that this is the closed season, photography may not be as easy as you would like, but we will do our best to accommodate requests.

All the best

Bruce

What time will this go on until? I arrive back from Dubai that morning but would like to try & pop in

Is there room for a short one and slaphead friend.

Dave

Bruce

I probably wont be able to make it now.

Is there room for a fat one???

I hope to be there…

You can include me Bruce, I will have a chance to pick that book up at last!

Yes indeed, all are welcome.

Those who are coming, keep adding names to this thread, and I’ll add it all up the week before.

Bruce

Every time I go round the M25, as I attempted to this week, I look over to the museum and say ‘must go there sometime’ but never have, with my enthusiasm for DH aircraft and Mossies in particular I don’t understand why I haven’t got round to it, so I’ll definately make a trip over that day, even if I have to mingle with Forumites!

Yes indeed, all are welcome.

Those who are coming, keep adding names to this thread, and I’ll add it all up the week before.

Bruce

Have not visited for years so I’ll also try to make it on Dec 11th.
Mark

Getting back on topic again, this is somewhere I’ve been meaning to get to for a long time, so if the offer is still open, would love to come along – is anyone co-ordinating attendance, or do we just turn up on the day?

Happy to offer a lift to anyone who lives in or around the Southend area – send me an e-mail if you want to take me up on this, but be aware I am now away in the States for three weeks and may not reply until I get back on 23rd November.

Re. spelling. The Google toolbar comes with a forum spell checker, e.g. checks in the reply box, no cut & pasting needed

The fact that it gives you those ‘literal’ options actually triggers your choice process and I believe you learn and improve by it over a period.

Sloppy presentation equates with sloppy content information…in my book.

Sorry Peter, I’d missed that post! I don’t use IE, as I don’t like Microsoft. I also don’t need it (your mileage may vary 😉 ) as I have the tools and standards that are important to me. You imply that ie spell has a literal checker? Can you clarify? If it’s offering you those choices, I agree it’s a good thing. I’ll be impressed if it’s much cop at literals – that’s usually why they are a problem.

In a book, sloppy spelling and usage is not good enough, in my opinion also. There’s few that don’t have one or two errors in, and I absolutely agree, careless spelling in formal usage is an indicator that other content may also lack. However there’s a lot more ropey punctuation and grammar in publications these days because people won’t pay a proof reader to correct a book because they think a spell-checker can do it for them.

Conversely, quality in all areas is reassuring, but still may have a rotten factual core (see the discredited defrocked ‘historian’ David Irving and multi million bestselling Jeffry Archer as two Britons capable of good English and illegal behaviour.)

Mistakes and errors in one area, though, are likely to be a clue to poor accuracy elsewhere, I absolutely agree – but aren’t the sole criterion. I’m sure you’ve read a few logbooks in your time – and there’s the odd spelling, literal and transcription error there, but they don’t end up in your bin, or discredited, do they?

We differ only on how formal a forum is as a means of communication. Grammar and punctuation ‘errors’ that set my teeth on edge (equivalent, I’d suggest to your concerns over spelling) I’ll let go by, because it’s about communicating ideas, not polishing our usage (in my opinion – each to their own). I’m also aware that we all live in a glass house in terms of instructing others over their perceived errors.

I’m delighted to work with you Mark, but not for… 😀

A ‘capital’ idea… that is important to me.

JDK,

Well on your job application to work for me, if you want me to get beyond the first three words, start with a capital letter. 🙂

Mark

Hear hear.

Have a great time.

Bruce, I’ll give A52-600 a pat for you when I’m next at the RAAF Museum. Pics will come to you too.

Now, it it Mossie, Mozzy, Mozie or Mossy?

Anyway, back on topic!

Count me in for the 11th. Was lucky to visit earlier this year when they were having a shuffle about and got some great pictures of a mossie in the sunshine.

Peter

Not really, it’s a ‘what you think is important’ thing.

As the grandchild of a very skilled and knowledgeable printer (older even than you, Mark 😉 – b. 1911, d. 1996) and being married to a highly qualified proof reader, with a degree from a UK dictionary issuing University, I’ve been able to explore the ‘why’ as well as knowing the ‘rules’ beloved of some.

In language, fixed spelling is a relatively modern convention, always under change, despite what some would have you believe, and there is no actual final arbiter of correct spelling for British English, American or most other. It’s just a question of sticking to what most people recognise now.

Chaucer (a government civil servant) Caxton, Shakespeare (who spelled his own name differently on the different original documents we have with his signature) and even Conan Doyle and Kipling would all find modern English usage and spelling incomprehensible-to-notably different.

Just some stuff to think about.

It’s an age thing. 😉

Mark

Interestingly, when we are talking, no one ‘spells’ anything. But we do ‘punctuate’ and we do use the right words pronounced correctly. For this reason I think pedantry in spelling on foruii is over-emphasised, as against a lack of clarity in meaning – misuse of punctuation, emoticons and ambiguous text messaging.

When misunderstandings occur, spelling is always the least likely culprit.

This my opinion for my use. I’m happy for everyone else to please themselves. 🙂