Just as my Flight Attendant Wife says that she likes to see a lot of grey hair (or a lot of no-hair) in the Cockpit: A retired four-striper friend (PA and UA 747’s) states that the only reason God made 747’s with 4 engines was that there was nowhere to put a 5th! 😀
I cannot help looking out of 777, 767 or 757 windows on the way from the West Coast to Hawaii and just wondering how long before a double engine failure, however unlikely, WILL cause a ditching?
ETOPS is now 180 minutes and THAT is a long time on just one donkey, particularly on the SFO – HNL run, the longest no-diversion sector in the world of approx 2,400 SM (2,000 NM).
Any comments from A340/B747 drivers and from ……. the lesser among us! :rolleyes:
By: wysiwyg - 28th March 2004 at 19:56
At last 4 engined aeroplanes have been made to comply with fire protection, etc, but it took the introduction of long haul twins to make that happen.
By: skycruiser - 28th March 2004 at 08:37
Well, in a twin engine aircraft…if an engine fails it’s classed as an emergency and it must proceed to the nearest suitable airfield, where as a four engine aircraft does not need to divert. As long as it meets the required fuel, safety and clearance requirements it can proceed to the destination.
In other words, I like 4 engines..oh, and it has 195 mins of fire protection.:D
By: Tim Green - 27th March 2004 at 22:57
I realize that reliability factors are incredibly good these days and the volcanic ash injestion by BA over Bali (?) that caused all 4 engines to flame out could not have been avoided by having 6 engines. But the PA that hit a flock of seagulls on departure from LHR a few years ago showed no ill effects until a vibration alert over Iceland. Accordingly #3 was shut down and they elected to continue to BOS. However, sometime later #4 suffered a (contained) blade failure which changed the situation somewhat. The crew elected to restart #3 and divert but could not get it to fire up. The result was an uncomfortable night in hotels in Gander as opposed to a long swim.
As another buddy says who flies B300 King Airs and also an F.E. Cessna Caravan: “Which would he rather be in over the Sierra Nevada Mountains at night in a snow storm when a warning light comes on?”
By: Dazza - 27th March 2004 at 22:29
Two donks or four?, I’ll split the difference and go with the MD-11!:cool:
-Dazza
By: andrewm - 27th March 2004 at 20:31
Id feel be glad to be going across the pond to USA or Canada full stop lol! At long at tis wasnt Russian I could mind what it was, even a A319 in easy seating config with what 27 inches of leg room?
By: Airline owner - 27th March 2004 at 20:31
o.k then :
By: LBARULES - 27th March 2004 at 20:29
Dont tempt me…..
By: Airline owner - 27th March 2004 at 20:27
Are you asking for a fight man???llol
By: LBARULES - 27th March 2004 at 20:26
You said you had sobered up, yet 2 minutes later you say your p!ssed? MAKE YOUR MIND UP!
By: greekdude1 - 27th March 2004 at 20:24
You must have been drunk when you posted all those outlandish rumors that never came to fruition, as well. Moral of the story: Alcohol consumption by those who cannot control their liquor, is bad.
By: LBARULES - 27th March 2004 at 20:23
Well stop posting stuff youve just made up then!
By: Airline owner - 27th March 2004 at 20:22
cheking that link i can say i am still p!ssed i have a Stella Artois can in me hand
By: Airline owner - 27th March 2004 at 20:20
I was probably p!ssed after all it is my Dad’s B’day now i have sobered up i can double it with my mum to say the cabin crew and service was crap
By: LBARULES - 27th March 2004 at 20:19
Heres where you said it:
http://forum.airforces.info/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23166
By: LBARULES - 27th March 2004 at 20:16
Yeah but that has nothing to do with the plane. Plus in another thread you said the service on Emirates was great so what are you on about?
By: Airline owner - 27th March 2004 at 20:14
I can sometimes feel worried by the cabin crew The BY 757 services (all of them) were relaxing. i had no reason to feel bad at all . I was expecting a great service from the worlds leading airline but the cabin crew made me feel edgey
By: greekdude1 - 27th March 2004 at 20:12
Originally posted by Airline owner
Except an Emirates A330 and even then i didnt feel as safe as the 757
Did you feel that the engines were going to fall off in the A330, or something? Is Boeing’s construction more rigid than that of Airbus?
By: LBARULES - 27th March 2004 at 20:08
Originally posted by Airline owner
Except an Emirates A330 and even then i didnt feel as safe as the 757
So all the flights on the list, they are the only 2 youve felt safe in? What made you feel not safe in the others?
By: Bmused55 - 27th March 2004 at 20:03
in this day and age, each is just as safe as the other.
I’d feel more safe flying over the pond in a 4 jet though
By: Airline owner - 27th March 2004 at 20:00
Except an Emirates A330 and even then i didnt feel as safe as the 757
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