January 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm
A fourth tunnel at Stalag Luft 111, the little known about “George” is to be excavated by historians this year in the hope it will reveal items such as radios, forged documents and uniforms which are reputed to have been hidden in it in late 1944. BBC Report
By: ranroz - 21st January 2011 at 22:35
I know personaly Air Cdr ret C Clarke that was in Stalag Luft III.
He would have been in Stangin last week but he is not well at the moment.
He had his hip replaced in Oct/Nov and caught a virus during the Christmas and New Year.
I also know another veteran that was in the same camp with him.
I am sure that they will pleased to find out, but also have second thoughts
when they think of the 50 that was killed after trying to escape.
By: EN830 - 21st January 2011 at 22:21
I think it was made payable to Mrs EN830
No, that one bounced as well, she is not happy !
By: EN830 - 21st January 2011 at 21:44
Andy, can you ask your pay master where my cheque is, the last one from his Nigerian contact bounced !!!
By: Arabella-Cox - 21st January 2011 at 21:23
One priceless communication I had from him claimed that I had been paid huge sums of money by the British government to come up with some ****-and-bull story about Douglas Bader that would attract media attention so as to divert such interest away from the real story about Douglas Bader….ie his!
It all sounds quite plausible really.
What really worries me is if they find a suitcase stuffed in that tunnel, plastered in Lufthansa labels, containing a whole clutch of ‘liberated’ toiletries and biscuits from the Stork Hotel.
Makes mental note; contact my paymaster in HMG for another large cheque in order to put out more disinformation and chaff ahead of the tunnel being opened. At all costs, I need to continue my cunning guile and subterfuge to ensure Mr Williams true story never emereges…..
By: EN830 - 21st January 2011 at 20:41
Ah yes, I remember it well, apart from Dogsbody himself, there were accounts of German bombers being shot down by rockets over Liverpool, Americans filling the bars of Liverpool well before they arrived in any significant numbers, Churchill’s shoes, hydraulic leaks in a Firefly, crash landings in a DC3 and much much more.
There were those who jumped to his defence, I recall getting a series of PM’s from someone in the US who thought we should be embracing his stories and not ridiculing them, not that we were. Sadly, the plausible bits of his wartime memoirs were quite interesting, but were over shadowed by the fact that he wouldn’t accept rhyme or reason when it came to his claims about DB being in the Stork Hotel, despite all the facts and accounts being stacked against him. It was all one big Government conspiracy to which we were all party.
By: Moggy C - 21st January 2011 at 19:32
I can’t recall offhand. I just know that anybody who dared to question the story was somehow an enemy of any veteran who had ever fought (or been a barman) in the war against facism, as he had.
Moggy
By: kev35 - 21st January 2011 at 19:14
Were we part of the enigma 11? Or had it grown to 13?
Regards,
kev35
By: Moggy C - 21st January 2011 at 17:16
It was a very interesting time.
There were numerous attacks on various of us on his web site.
Moggy
By: |RLWP - 21st January 2011 at 17:06
I wish you hadn’t mentioned the Stork Hotel stuff. I went and found out what you were talking about, and several hours of my life just drifted futilely away…
Richard
By: Arabella-Cox - 21st January 2011 at 12:27
Its all a ruse that he is somewhere north of Sydney.
He is, in fact, in the Stork Retirement Home somewhere north of Liverpool where a young assistant tends to his daily living needs.
One day, many years from now, that very same assistant will engage in furious exchanges on the internet, expounding his preposterous theories that Mr Williams was never living north of Sydney at all……
By: EN830 - 20th January 2011 at 18:36
:D:D:D:D:D
*Edited to add* I wonder what happened to Mr Williams? It must be 6/7 years since round one of “Storkgate” began…
I am lead to believe he is still writing his memoirs to the north of Sydney. He has posted on the interweb a few times in the past 12 months, but I notice that the various threads are soon pulled, so I guess each has fallen to his usual rants etc.
By: Ashley - 20th January 2011 at 15:52
I suspect that they’ll have a very long walk and emerge in the ruined cellar of a Liverpool Hotel to be greeted by a grumpy old git saying “I told you so”.
:D:D:D:D:D
*Edited to add* I wonder what happened to Mr Williams? It must be 6/7 years since round one of “Storkgate” began…
By: JägerMarty - 20th January 2011 at 12:38
I think they will have to get past the crated buried Merlins first.
Lmao! 🙂
And the fueled up 109Ks!
By: Malcolm McKay - 20th January 2011 at 11:21
Dammit all !!!! I just had to get involved – g’day Andy 😀
What worries me the most is that given the war has been over for the better part of 66 years there are still POWs trying to dig out. Well that’s what the thread title implies :diablo:
I’ll go now ………….
By: Sky High - 20th January 2011 at 08:26
I think Resmoroh is just trying to say that any excavation should be done using science as a primary tool rather than enthusiasm alone. Maybe not a bad idea considering the tunnel will be partially collapsed. Definitely a time for hand trowels rather than big diggers. As Res has an Archaeology Degree and has been previously employed digging up Roman stuff for a university, he probably knows what he’s talking about.
Then I heartily agree, but I haven’t read anything from which you couild possibly infer that it will anything other than a professional expert lead excavation.
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th January 2011 at 07:54
I think they will have to get past the crated buried Merlins first.
By: Frazer Nash - 19th January 2011 at 23:18
Yeah, that’s if they can squeeze past the crates of WLD Harley Davidsons and the six Chinese Short Stirlings….
By: Arabella-Cox - 19th January 2011 at 22:36
I think Resmoroh is just trying to say that any excavation should be done using science as a primary tool rather than enthusiasm alone. Maybe not a bad idea considering the tunnel will be partially collapsed. Definitely a time for hand trowels rather than big diggers. As Res has an Archaeology Degree and has been previously employed digging up Roman stuff for a university, he probably knows what he’s talking about.
It will be. It isn’t an ‘amateur’ effort. Who said anything, anywhere, about this being led by enthusiasm alone??
Dr Howard Tuck is a Military Historian, who works for the MOD, and the operation will certainly involve ‘proper’ 😀 archaeologists (with military engineering support) of whom Resmoroh would surely approve.
By: Arabella-Cox - 19th January 2011 at 22:16
Is it true that “George’s” exit is to one of the hidden bunkers in Queensland?
(PS Sorry gents I couldn’t help myself but I was having a good chuckle over some of the previous poster’s comments!)
Paul
By: paulmcmillan - 19th January 2011 at 21:20
if historians/archaeologists were digging up Colditz would they find the receipt from the Stork Hotel?