April 2, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Since my comments about the french president (and his predecessor who wasn’t much better) were edited out from my posts in the military aviation forum, as they should, I have decided to vent here, part to annoy some of my french compatriots (although I don’t think they really feel french anymore, or do they), and to enlighten my foreign co-forumers to what is France nowadays.
As is the case in many other countries, our freemason goverment is trying to enforce societal change according to gender theories , and that includes gay marriage. (7 ministers are proven masons, and others may well be (since 9 of them belong to “the cercle”, a private club which has the same entrance ceremony than in the grand orient, the biggest freemason organisation in France).
Sadly, most sane people don’t want what is yet another nail in the coffin of catholicity in our country, and a million people demonstrated in Paris against this absurd law.
I’ll skip the part that people (most demonstrated were families with children and often young children) were teargazed (yes children too) by the police, that the usual “agent provocateurs tried to stir trouble”, and that some people were downright beaten, but I’ll go right to the images that were publishing in french big media to prove that the demonstration was only of about 300 000 persons.
I hereby present to you:
Photoshopped helicopter police shots. The text is in french, but you’se guys probably can go with just the images:
http://cestpasnormal.fr/un-mensonge-detat-en-video/
Hopefully people are just now giving our ministers what they deserve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=06OjU0QlEA0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-ujxYUD5cNE
More and more videos of that kind float around… that’s the only thing that cheers me up this days when it comes to my country.
Oh, that and the fact that the Rafale > Su35 :p
Nic
By: Matt-100 - 6th April 2013 at 12:47
When it comes to adoption, surely we should be doing what we think’s best for the children. Rather than what we consider best for society?
Given a choice between living with a caring and loving couple or months in a deprived council run foster establishment. I think I know which one they’d rather have?
Matt
By: charliehunt - 6th April 2013 at 08:59
🙂
By: Grey Area - 5th April 2013 at 23:03
Ah, right.
Yes, looks like I’ll have to give you that one. 🙂
By: charliehunt - 5th April 2013 at 21:12
#34 – GA
By: Grey Area - 5th April 2013 at 20:23
Which one?
i’m starting to lose track of them in this rather…. interesting….. thread.
By: charliehunt - 5th April 2013 at 13:13
Except the thousands of French masons!!;) So, no, your answer is certainly not clear!
Grey Area – does that answer your comment?
By: Nicolas10 - 5th April 2013 at 12:59
I fully accept that, GA, but this phrase caught my attention, which gives little room for nuances of language.
” but it is just a little piece of the war that the masons are waging against catholicity”
And Nic is welcome to respond in French, if he wishes!!;):)
I despise masons & everything masonry stands for. They answer to their own secret objectives and definately NOT to the french people.
Is the answer clear enough for you?
Nic
By: paul178 - 4th April 2013 at 21:25
Perhaps someone can tell me where the term “Gay” came from? I know quite a few Homosexuals and most seem angry and agrieved about their lack of rights and other slights real or imagined. Gay to me means a happy and carefree sort of person which does not seem to fit that community very well at all. I must admit if people did not insist on telling me about their sexual orientation I would not know or care.
By: John Green - 4th April 2013 at 20:34
RE 43
In your particular case – I reckon he did.
By: TonyT - 4th April 2013 at 18:04
I bet you find that a right pain in the ****.
By: charliehunt - 4th April 2013 at 17:51
Everytime I read this thread title I keep missing the second letter of the word in brackets and that makes it just as apposite as the word originally written!! Apologies!!;):)
By: TonyT - 4th April 2013 at 17:35
I have absolutely no problem what men or women do to each other, as long as they do it in private and it isn’t forced down my throat.
Pun not intended
What I really hate is sexual preferences or the like of race or colour that is forced upon me by the PC brigade and the people that play the race card, all of which I do not have a problem with, just the PC brigade foisting it upon me.
By: trumper - 4th April 2013 at 17:17
Yes,he was slightly drunk in the pub reading the odds on the next days dog races 🙂
By: Grey Area - 4th April 2013 at 16:53
Read it again – very slowly.
Are you sure Einstein said that?
By: charliehunt - 4th April 2013 at 12:36
I read it again –just took longer 🙂
Having Gay marches is fine if it’s a “celebration” BUT when it become a militant demand to force people to accept them [bit like religious zealots] then i have a problem.
The line between those two intentions is too feint to make any difference, apart from which there will be marchers on the “wrong” side of the line. In any case what is “being celebrated”? Simply that “I AM GAY AND I LOVE MYSELF FOR IT AND SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU”. No thanks. Most people don’t care. Many of us have happy and fruitful friendships with both hetero and homosexuals and that’s it.
Homosexuals have been a generally accepted part of our culture for many years now and the majority of people are quite content for them to get on with their lives whilst the rest get on with theirs.
By: trumper - 4th April 2013 at 12:25
Read it again – very slowly.
I read it again –just took longer 🙂
I don’t think you really know your own sexuality until you get older and have experienced life.I know a few people who thought they were straight,got married ,did the family bit and then realised in their middle years they weren’t really happy with who they thought they were supposed to be and that their real feelings didn’t come out until later .
Having Gay marches is fine if it’s a “celebration” BUT when it become a militant demand to force people to accept them [bit like religious zealots] then i have a problem.
By: John Green - 4th April 2013 at 12:06
When I read your reply to my series of questions that weren’t open to interpretation as statements, a quote attributed to Albert Einstein came into my mind.
Read it again – very slowly.
By: Grey Area - 4th April 2013 at 10:16
Is this likely to have an influence on the childs sexual orientation on becoming an adult? Is pyschological damage something to be considered? Is this necessarily something to be concerned about?
No, it’s a myth in much the same way as the asinine notion that same-sex marriage would in some way threaten existing ‘conventional’ marriages. Also, you sound like Maude Flanders.
Why do I need to be force fed a diet of homosexuality…?
Ooh, kinky! :diablo:
Surely the principle of ‘live and let live’ should, apart from the children question, apply?
But surely the principle of ‘live and let live’ would be an argument in favour of permitting same-sex marriage?
I don’t think you’ve thought this one through, John.
By: MSR777 - 3rd April 2013 at 19:42
Well put Charlie, you just beat me to it. As far as children being influenced by the ‘gender configuration’ of their families is concerned, I can only speak for myself. I come from a happy, heterosexual family, so I don’t really see a correlation between the gender make up of parents, and the sexual orientation of their children.
In a way, this brings the debate back towards wether being gay or not, is a ‘lifestyle choice’ and as I’ve said in my earlier post, I honestly don’t believe in that premise at all. My fellow gays adopting kids? Personally, I’ve never quite got that, same with same sex marriage, but each to their own I guess.
By: charliehunt - 3rd April 2013 at 19:13
Perhaps someone can explain to me, for I have never understood the need for the continuous stream of ‘gay’ propaganda as evidenced by some of the annual ‘gay rights’ marches and carnivals held in places such as Brighton. Why do I need to be force fed a diet of homosexuality when no one force feeds me with a diet of rampant heterosexuality?
Surely the principle of ‘live and let live’ should, apart from the children question, apply?
I agree and I hasten to add that many homosexuals loathe “gay pride marches” and similar acts of protest.
And many same-sex couples have no interest in having children either.