France is a banana republic (with proofs).

Here’s an extra ingredient in the mix.

No contributor has mentioned how children feature in homosexual or gay relationships and marriage. I don’t want a riposte of: “What’s the problem”? Who knows? What is a child to make of a Mummy and a Daddy of the same sex?

Is this likely to have an influence on the childs sexual orientation on becoming an adult? Is pyschological damage something to be considered? Is this necessarily something to be concerned about? Or, are these questions perceived as somehow threatening and undermining of the whole elaborate, over-the-top posturing of a substantial in-your-face section of the ‘gay’ lobby

Perhaps all of this is what at least some of the French demonstration was all about.

Perhaps someone can explain to me, for I have never understood the need for the continuous stream of ‘gay’ propaganda as evidenced by some of the annual ‘gay rights’ marches and carnivals held in places such as Brighton. Why do I need to be force fed a diet of homosexuality when no one force feeds me with a diet of rampant heterosexuality?

Surely the principle of ‘live and let live’ should, apart from the children question, apply?

I fully accept that, GA, but this phrase caught my attention, which gives little room for nuances of language.

” but it is just a little piece of the war that the masons are waging against catholicity”

And Nic is welcome to respond in French, if he wishes!!;):)

Do I detect a subjective mason-bashing pro-Catholic agenda here…??

To be fair, Charlie, Nic isn’t posting in his first language so nuances of meaning may be lost.

Having said that, Nic’s English is a damn sight better than my French. 🙂

but it is just a little piece of the war that the masons are waging against catholicity and the french nation

Do I detect a subjective mason-bashing pro-Catholic agenda here…?? I know nothing of the masonic movement in France but my reguilar visits and extended stays in France over the last 50 years suggest a decline in Catholicism as a faith but rather a forbearance of it as the state religion – a bit like Anglicanism in the UK. Many churches are as empty as those here except on high days and holidays.

It is absolutely not about giving the same rights to everyone. Actually, a gay man can get married to a woman just like a straight man can. So they have just the same rights.
Nic

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Yes it is at the core of the demo, but it is just a little piece of the war that the masons are waging against catholicity and the french nation. Debating gay marriage and only it means that you have to tackle the issue of the “evolution” of our whole civilisation, the gender theories & all that stuff.

It is absolutely not about giving the same rights to everyone. Actually, a gay man can get married to a woman just like a straight man can. So they have just the same rights.

Nic

That the demonstration was against gay marriage was IMO irrelevant, but apparently people here don’t feel that way. And while I am strongly against it, I don’t really really care to debate why. I might but in MP, not in this thread.

Nic

Gay marriage and adoption was at the core of the demo, and was the very reason it took place, so its hardly irrelevant. However, I do understand your point ref so called ‘mainstream media’ and how they cover, or don’t cover, certain events. Sadly, that is the case in a great many countries, not just France.

I don’t care that gay people spend their life together.

Gay marriage is a much more complicated thing that you make it look, and while in principle I don’t give a damn if gay people got married, in practise it opens a whole bunch of cans of worms (yes many cans), for subsequent societal changes. Gender theories will wreck our societies, and gay marriage is only a small part of the puzzle, paving the way for more sinister evolutions.

Also it’s yet another nail in the coffin of our morals and religion. And by the way gay people don’t really care about marriage. Only gay rights activists do. Just look as who is behind those organisations and you know you should be against gay marriage.

Nic

Nic, your last comment sounds awfully close to “know your place woman.” Not a sentiment i can agree with.

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Hi Nic,
You seem to be saying that people shouldn’t be equal under law.
If you read english literature of a bygone age you’ll find comments such as “know your place woman” a saying that basically stated that woman were not equal to men intellectually etc.
I do agree that physically and in thought process 😮 men and women are generally different, but that is not a reason for in-equality under law to be tolerated.

To be fair, Tony, we all fund things that we don’t make direct use of or consider to be a white elephant – the objections varying from person to person.

That’s the joy of being a taxpayer. 🙂

Benefits!? Under this government you are better off not being married!!

How do you work that one out? my tax is higher, I fund schools I will never use, I fund child benefit, that I think should be scrapped… Need I go on?

Oh yeah but the point I was trying to make was how ridiculous the manipulation was getting… and how low the present government could go in manipulating both the police forces & the media.

That the demonstration was against gay marriage was IMO irrelevant, but apparently people here don’t feel that way. And while I am strongly against it, I don’t really really care to debate why. I might but in MP, not in this thread.

Nic

Nic, how has the thread been been ‘de-railed’? You started this thread, based on the demonstrations held in Paris, which as I understand it, were against gay rights in terms of marriage and adoption, was this not the case? If so, then based on the content of responses posted here, the thread is not ‘de-railed’ referring as they do, to the points you raise.

There is a world of difference between what you call a ‘de-railed’ thread, and a thread containing well thought out responses to it, from people who hold different views to your own. Its a forum, that’s how it works, and hopefully, by taking part, we all learn something from it.

Not because this thread alludes to gay marriage that you need to bring Oscar Wilde. 😀

Nic

Snafu 352

Green – like Barkis, is willin’ !

There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

Oscar Wilde

Are you talking about me?

Nic

I think he’s taken his ball home with him, chaps.

Quel dommage.

Well the thread has been derailed… whatever one thinks about gay marriage, the point is that the police fakes images & that big media (le monde no less) publishes those fakes image to plain lie to the french people. & at the same time the french gvt doesn’t even begin to aknowledge that it has to at least talk to the representatives of the anti gay marriage if they can muster 1 million persons in a demonstration.

Next time there is a demonstration, I’m going to attend (last time I worked) to have an undistorted view of what has happened.

For or against gay marriage should belong to another thread though.

Nic

I’m sorry Nic, but just because most people don’t approve of something doesn’t necessarily mean people shouldn’t be allowed to do it, this is just tyranny of the majority. So long as they aren’t hurting anyone else or getting in their way then the government has a duty to protect the liberty of people to do whatever they wish (with the above proviso).

Many people claim to be against letting gay people marry because it would infringe on their own freedom – it seems to me that this is just a tacit admission that they don’t actually believe in freedom for all, they just want everyone to be limited to things that they personally approve of.

Totally agree they should have equal rights to marriage and the benefits that come from it.

Benefits!? Under this government you are better off not being married!!