Future 'Back to flight' projects??

Sound of Two Merlins

I just enjoyed a mini aviation display here in New Zealand as the only flying Mosquito recently “remanufactured” at Ardmore for a US owner and on its last flight here at Karapiro Domain close to our Cambridge at an Armistice Day Annual Tribute. Mainly Military ground hardware but a Messerschmitt and a P51 put on a display as well. Only thing better would be two Mosquitos or a Lancaster!!

We were standing on an embankment as he went past at about 320mph… hard to get a good shot with an old camera…

Also just a dream but a Westland Whirlwind would been amazing with a pair of RR Peregrine what a sound

Be carefull what you wish for !!!!!!!!!:diablo::diablo::diablo:

Possibly, but i would of thought the contra-props would have affected the sound, much like the Shackleton / Seafire 47 does with the Griffon.

Have to say though that i’ve never come across any sound of an Eagle 22 running.. yet!

Rob

Sadly i can only dream about what that must of sounded like 😎

Rob

Like a Sabre? Similar engine and RPM.
I wonder if there are any good quality films of it with sound?

Pete

You can keep yer Griffons and Sabres, as personally i’d settle for the RR Eagle in Yeoviltons Wyvern TF.1 being fired up just once, and those eight menacing blades scything through the air :).

Sadly i can only dream about what that must of sounded like 😎

Rob

For me

DC-6
Halifax
Shackleton
Another Huey in the UK
Cobra
Gladiator
Few more Hawker biplanes

There was a link to this from the Viscount Network. http://www.avitop.com/aircraft/aircraft.asp?id=1658

Sabre/Griffon.

Interestingly, although the Griffon was pretty much at the end of it’s development cycle, the Sabre was run up to stupendous power-levels by Napier in trials, far beyong what the Griffon could have achieved. Sadly, the changeover onto jets curtailed what would otherwise have been an amazing engine. What the Griffon did have however, was much of the Merlins reliability, which cannot be said of the Sabre….! 🙂

Enough warbirds!

Viscount (recover G-APEY from Congo)
Comet (Canopus)

Two British milestones of aviation.

M

Also just a dream but a Westland Whirlwind would been amazing with a pair of RR Peregrine what a sound

Thank you – that’s interesting.

For comparison:

Sabre IIB 2,400 horsepower (1,790 kW). Four choke S.U. carburettor: Mainly used in Hawker Tempest V.

Griffon 61
Introduced a two-speed two-stage supercharger with aftercooler similar to that on Merlin 61; 2,035 hp (1,520 kW) at 7,000 ft (2,100 m) and 1,820 hp (1,360 kW) at 21,000 ft (6,400 m); used on Spitfire F.Mk.XIV, Mk.21.

Charlie

I know this isn`t an answer to your question, but the Griffon engined Spitfire was about 40mph faster than the Typhoon, so I don`t know if a Sabre powered Spitfire would have been any advantage over what already existed?

Pete

Thanks Pete. I did wonder about the Griffon, when I wrote the post, but thought that the Sabre was a much more powerful engine than the Griffon. Sadly we’ll never know!

Yes, sorry about that – didnt see him.

Bruce

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Isn’t it about time the moderators vaporised you? Go and plug your wares somewhere else.

Pete

Baltimore

Are there any in existence?

Ooops…

Doh!! Of course you ARE right. What a prat (me)!!:o Sorry, snoopy……

lol….no sweat. I often misread postings…:p:)

Oh too brake the monotony of Spitfires I’d like to see a Spiteful in flight…………doesn’t someone here have a canopy it’s a start!!

A question for the experts. If the engine had been introduced more quickly and without the problems it encountered in the Typhoon, would it have been feasible to fit it into a Spitfire? It has always seemd to me that it arrived as a successful engine about 2/3 years too late just as the turbojet was coming into its own.

Charlie

I know this isn`t an answer to your question, but the Griffon engined Spitfire was about 40mph faster than the Typhoon, so I don`t know if a Sabre powered Spitfire would have been any advantage over what already existed?

Pete

Ah – good memories, by the sound of it. No pictures, I suppose….?

Charlie I was 11 or 12 at the time, the family did not own a camera. In addition we lived in a controlled area where I think private cameras were verboten. Every day on the bus ride to school the bus was stopped at a check point so that a soldier could come through and check identity cards. Oh for such luxuries nowadays, the moaning would never stop.
Mind you, we boys used to steal ammunition from the army. I found a rifle, hidden in the loft, when we moved house in 1944 and had it out in the garden and loaded.:eek::eek: I had been taught how to strip, clean, and fire a rifle some time before. Luckily I had the sense to unload it, as I had considered firing it in the air:diablo:. We then presented it to the village policeman as we had been taught. Boys don’t know they’ve been born nowadays :D:D