Hi Folks, Just been scanning in some slides to save on my new CD writer and I thought these might be of interest. It’s the FW.190F8-U1 584219. It now resides at Hendon, but these were taken when it was on my charge at St Athan. It’s not the prettiest aeroplane in the world and the conversion is a bit of a lash up, but it is a real BEAST of an aeroplane!!
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By: SADSACK - 3rd December 2002 at 11:58
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Lancman, are you going to object to that perch under the FW190?
By: i82qb4ic - 2nd December 2002 at 16:50
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Certainly was run a number of times, not exactly sure when. I was sentenced to serve 2 x 3 year sentences at St Athan and saw it run on 3 occasions. I believe it was museum policy (at that time)to try and get as many a/c in ‘running order’.
Must have been either 83-85 or 88-91.
Regards i8
By: SADSACK - 26th November 2002 at 10:55
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Do they do the same with Newarks Vulcan? i only went inside the cockpit when I was about 9 or 10. However I clearly remember the engines, then again it might have been on the PA system…
By: Bluebird Mike - 23rd November 2002 at 15:08
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She certainly WAS run at St Athan, at at least one of the early/mid eighties ‘At Home’ days, maybe two, as I clearly remember both this and the Me410 being run early in the mornings on show day. I used to have photos of both running, but sadly I lost a lot of material in a move some years ago. But anyway yes, she once was a runner!
Now, she’s a Hendon dust collector.
It was always the done thing for St Athan- get there for gate opening time, leg it in, and have a good look around inside the Vulcan there before the crowds/queue built up and you didn’t get so much time inside! I remember on one year it was hooked up to ground power, so lots of little lights were twinkling and things were ‘humming’-magical!
By: keithmac - 23rd November 2002 at 13:29
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Hi Folks. She was repainted just before my photo’s were taken. We based the paint scheme on what was there before, which I believe was the original Luftwaffe paint scheme. The original paint had deteriorated badly, so I had no choice but to strip her and chemically sort out the corrosion. The additions such as the Heart symbol were added after I had left St Athan. Where exactly they originate, I’m not sure. The story behind the conversion is obscure, however the general belief was that she was converted as a high speed communications aircraft used to ferry pilots between one sqn and another and to pick up aircraft from the factory etc. This may or may not be true. As to the engine being run, I certainly never ran her. The Germans had a totally different method of engine/prop control to us, and I did’nt know how exactly it worked, so not wishing to cause damage , I left well alone. I’ve heard that she has been run, but I’ve never met the man who ran her!!
KeithMac.
By: Seafuryfan - 22nd November 2002 at 20:09
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Great pics Keithmac -thanks. I too am glad that such a two seater is there for us to still see. It gives a good idea of ingenious engineering solutions from the middle of the last century on aircraft.
By: David Burke - 22nd November 2002 at 19:07
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She was ferried from Grove to Farnborough on the 2nd of September 1945. Although issued with the serial AM29 it’s believed that she didn’t fly again after arrival. The is every chance that the scheme she was wearing in the 1960’s was her original scheme.
By: SADSACK - 22nd November 2002 at 10:35
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I doubt the paint scheme in the pictures was the original wartime paint, as surely it would have been repainted in RAF markings when captured?
By: EHVB - 22nd November 2002 at 10:23
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-11-02 AT 10:31 AM (GMT)]I shot in in the RAF Museum some years ago. I agree it has an ugly canopy, but I am glad it remains this way. Especially in the US, several unique aircraft as the TBM-3W2 , Dual nightfighterversion of the P-38 (and P-38’s with camera noses), were all converted into “normal” aircraft. Historicly destroyed in the restauration. I noticed when I compared the 2 shots, that the aircraft has been repainted. If it was in the original WW2 paintsceme first, I am not to happy with this as hardly any WW2 aircraft around today still wears the original paintcoat. Another question, where is that green heart on the fuselage, and the crest on the nose coming from? Are these original (for this aircraft???).BW Roger
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By: SADSACK - 22nd November 2002 at 10:02
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It might be ugly but its a unique version…
By: Ant.H - 22nd November 2002 at 00:00
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-11-02 AT 00:03 AM (GMT)]Hi Kiethmac,some interesting pics,thanks for putting them up :). Is it true that she used to have her engine run occasionally whilst she was at St Athan?I read somewhere that it was,but the exhaust outlets in your pictures look too clean for this to be so.
I’m wondering why she was converted from a close support F model rather than one of the standard A fighter versions.Surely in the last months of the war the Luftwaffe were desperate for close support aircraft,so why take this one out of the frontline?
I have to say I think I agree with you about her appearance.That second seat certainly doesn’t do her any favours.
Thanks again for putting them up,it would certainly be good to see any others you felt like posting 🙂
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