August 8, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Amazing video of a non fatal but dramatic crash of a GA plane in Utah someplace.
The first warning sign for me was the insanely long take off, they touch down again, then become airborne again.
Crazy stuff.
By: ericmunk - 17th November 2015 at 16:37
This is equally bizarre incident; http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f7_1360043598
Carburettor icing.
By: topspeed - 30th October 2015 at 16:42
This is equally bizarre incident; http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f7_1360043598
By: Moggy C - 9th August 2012 at 21:52
I wonder did he think to lean it?
Moggy
By: Arabella-Cox - 9th August 2012 at 05:56
Scary stuff. Performance charts should be used… but remember the performance charts on that old Stinson might be a bit non-existent. I’ve flown several older aircraft that wouldn’t have that kind of data available. In such a case, one needs to be aware of the DA issues, and set some minimums – ie. if not airborne in the first X and at such altitude, abort the takeoff.
Ryan
By: Propstrike - 8th August 2012 at 22:45
25 second take off run ! Holy smoke.:eek:
Found this link seems a bit more co-operative.
By: J Boyle - 8th August 2012 at 22:39
Sorry the pilot was hurt and destroyed his nice airplane.
Here’s the preliminary report on the NTSB database.
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20120701X65804&key=1
But it sure looks like the pilot missed the part in ground school about density altitude.
The aircraft is a Stinson 108, and according to a friend with one, are hardly overpowered.
Those Stinsons originally came with a 150-165 hp engine…not enough if you want to play bush pilot with a full load of pax.
They also had a full load of passengers and probably gear.
Combine that weight with the altitude of back country strips and the heat of a summer day, and you don’t need to be a test pilot to see what could possibly happen.
The NTSB says the crash occurred at the Big Meadows, which according to my copy of the classic backcountry flying guide “Fly Idaho” the field elevation is 6370 msl. Length is listed as 5000ft.
The rule of thumb of flying in the backcountry is to treat a 4 seat plance like a two place.
Sitting comfortably at home in front of my computer, let me say I would want a Cessna 185 or 206 to take off with 4 people from a strip at those altitudes in the summer.
The guy should have aborted his takeoff long before he reached the end of the runway.
As we can see, it’s not a short strip, but it has its own set of dangers in the summer.
Again, the PIC is a commercial pilot with more hours than I have…and I hate to be a back-seat pilot, but still, it sure looks like an avoidable mishap.
Just two days before, a local area pilot was killed when his Aviat Husky 180 hp bushplane crashed on takeoff from the Moose Creek airstip also in the Idaho backcountry. It only has an altitude of 2454 feet. Preliminary reports said that crash was caused by sudden winds.
BTW: they were in the Frank Church Wilderness area…which is Idaho, not Utah.
By: TonyT - 8th August 2012 at 19:09
Or would have thought they would have abandoned it earlier whilst they still had grass under them. Very lucky
By: AlanR - 8th August 2012 at 18:30
Ouch !, they were lucky.
I know it’s easy to be wise in hindsight, but I would have thought they might have aborted the take off ?