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German bomber down 29Jan'44 near Bury St Edmunds

Please could anybody identify a german aircraft that crashed near Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk on 29 January 1945. The only other info I have is ‘unexploded bombs’ still onboard. Pse n tku -ian

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By: Snapper - 22nd May 2017 at 22:02

2nd left looks like a vintage Collis to me,

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By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd May 2017 at 16:37

Hello

Just come across this thread, and I’ve a small snippet of info to add about L. W. Neal – this is from the Newcastle Journal, February 12th 1944:

Downed raider on practice flight
During a night practice flight, Flight-Sergt. Leslie W. Neal, whose parents live at 10, Havelock Street, Thornaby, destroyed a Ju-88.
The enemy plane’s fuselage was hit by four bursts, and it blew up after a second burst.
Flight-Sergt. Neal mentioned his “little episode” in a letter to his parents some days later, adding: “I was pleased to get him, seeing that he hadn’t dropped his bombs. They went down with him.”
Flight-Sergt. Neal attended the Arthur Head School, Thornaby, and was an operator with a Stockton cinema before joining up. He was married last year and his wife lives in Kent.

His full name is Leslie William Neal, born Thornaby-on-Tees, January 8th 1919.

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By: Kiteflyer - 4th February 2013 at 21:56

Attached photo (copyright EADT) taken during visit to the site in the late Eighties when surface fragments were found.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd February 2013 at 11:51

Yes, I know Ian! Lovely items to us, now – but then, just Jerry junk.

So many of those trophies around then. So few now!

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By: ian_ - 3rd February 2013 at 11:48

Nice pictures Andy. I wonder if the spar survives anywhere, no one could have been in any doubt to it’s origin, they have painted the details in big letters at the bottom.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd February 2013 at 11:42

Yes, bomb disposal in WW2 England is a fascinating topic. Chris Ransted’s book lists over 600 BD casualties in WW2 – an astonishing number of them in the UK.

I have just completed an article for ‘After The Battle’ on a bomb disposal incident in Eastbourne during October 1940 that killed two BD soldiers and a civilian Police Sgt, just three of many such deaths.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd February 2013 at 11:26

Had not even realised such a study was carried out to write a book. Thought mostly it was swept under carpet. Thank you I will pursue it for my own interest, old lady will not be reading.
I thank you for all the posts you make because it leads many of us down avenues we never knew about tku

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd February 2013 at 11:00

Rochford – sorry that there are no images that I know of depicting the incident you are interested in.

BTW, have you seen ‘Bomb Disposal & The British Casualties of WW2’ by Chris Ransted? A fascinating read and insight.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd February 2013 at 10:04

Hi-I would just like to thank you guys for answering the query posed by elderly lady. Her husband had one of those very important/interesting jobs during the war which did not generate a huge orbituary in the Daily Splurge. Orbits seem to be only for Spitfire pilots! He was one of the huge FEW
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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd February 2013 at 09:35

You are welcome!

The two ATS privates are Phyllis Cross and Rose Chorley whilst Gunner Alfred Piggott looks on.

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By: Clint Mitchell - 2nd February 2013 at 09:10

Thank you Andy. Appreciated. 🙂

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st February 2013 at 22:01

As promised!

The gun crews of 627 (Heavy) AA Bty pose with their trophies.

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By: Clint Mitchell - 1st February 2013 at 13:39

And Clint….give me until this evening!

Much obliged! 🙂

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st February 2013 at 13:32

Andy other loss was this the one in which Siegfried Zillmann was killed?

Paul – yes. And Clint….give me until this evening!

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By: Clint Mitchell - 1st February 2013 at 13:15

No pics, although some nice very ones relating to another loss that night a bit further south and over The Thames.

Lets have a peek then.. 😀

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By: paulmcmillan - 1st February 2013 at 12:52

Andy other loss was this the one in which Siegfried Zillmann was killed?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st February 2013 at 11:43

Yes, Paul has filled in the missing detail I hinted at in #2.

Have just searched my photo archive. No pics, although some nice very ones relating to another loss that night a bit further south and over The Thames.

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By: Moggy C - 1st February 2013 at 10:57

Shot down by Flight Sergeant L.W. Neal and Flight Sergeant E Eastwood in a Beaufighter MkVI of No 68 Squadron on their first operational flight.

I bet that cost them a fortune in the Mess afterwards 😀

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st February 2013 at 10:55

Thanks for that – checking with 92 year old wife of bomb disposal expert & what you found sounds good – MORE LATER -tku ian

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By: paulmcmillan - 1st February 2013 at 10:52

Sure not 29/1/44?

been here before? http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=55278

From ‘The Blitz then & now Vol 3’ (Night of 29/30th January 1944)

‘3/KG54 Junkers Ju88A-4 (300228). Shot down by Flight Sergeant L.W. Neal and Flight Sergeant E Eastwood in a Beaufighter MkVI of No 68 Squadron on their first operational flight. Crashed half a mile south-west of Shrubland Hall, Codenham, Suffolk, 8.40 pm. Uffz H Goergen killed, Uffz J Sprenger injured, Uffz A Zehetner and Uffz W Bruning baled out and taken prisoner. Aircraft B3+AL destroyed.

Heinz Goergen buried at Cannock Chase

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