Ghosts ?

Hi All,
Charlie,
Steady Geoff what am I a horse ? 😀 I must apologise I misinterpreted what you said I bow down and kiss your plums oops!! damn you Charlie secrets out! 😀

Geoff.

I’d like to reply Geoff, but I have no idea what your point is……..

Hi All,
Jim,
If time travel is possible that would obviously mean that time stands still and moves forward every nano second at the same time, because in theory you could go back to the same second of any given Hr over and over again would agree that would be the case ? As far as the greys are concerned if they are from the very distant future then time travel has been cracked.

Geoff.

Well Geoff, work this one out. As I understand it, we can even now, travel BACK in time albeit only for a split second or two, however, it has been stated, it is impossible to travel to the future. So, if those little Grey chappies visit us from their future, how do they get home?.
(And before anyone says, “Phone Home” You cant because E.T. is on it).
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Hi All,
Charlie,
Steady Geoff what am I a horse ? 😀 I must apologise I misinterpreted what you said I bow down and kiss your plums oops!! damn you Charlie secrets out! 😀
Jim,
Well here’s another one Jimbo after research a study group was asked to theorise what the Human Being would eventually evolve into and you know what they said we would have a larger cranial development, Torso and limbs would be slim and skinny and guess an artists impression when done on the description they looked like the greys so work that one out, of coarse some theorise that abductees that mention the Grey’s are from our future having become sterile themselves and mixing their DNA with ours to carry the species on but that’s just complete speculation, who knows of coarse most say that’s absurd but didn’t they say that about flight and lots of other achievements we have done ?

Geoff.

Geoff. If I understand it correctly, life as we know, all started with the “Big Bang Theory”, and we turned out as we are. So, IMHO, everything came/originated from the Big Bang. So,if there were Aliens out there, would they not look exactly like us, and not those little Grey men, as in Roswell?.
Just a thought.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Steady Geoff – where did I say that? Those are what the letters stand for unarguably. But it suggests that a flying object exists but is unidentified or better unexplained. Hence my comment.

Hi All,
So Charlie boy 😀 I got it wrong then did I and UFO doesn’t stand for Unidentified Flying Object. :confused:

Geoff.

Geoff – it would be more accurate to describe a UFO as an object you THINK you have seen or photographed. Correct me if I am wrong but the large majority of UFOs remain unexplained and the existence of something for which there is no rational explanation is unlikely.

Hi All,
Paul oh Paul,
I see you have fallen into that classic mistake for confusing Alien extra-terrestrial craft with UFO’s 😀 UFO’s are 100% real as if you see something flying and cannot identify it it’s a UFO 😉 As for extra-terrestrial craft piloted by ET I am a believer even if only a day dream :highly_amused: but like you say considering were we are and how insignificant this little blue dot is in the cosmos then odds are in favour of other intelligent life out there, whether that be advanced or below our own intellect (Though judging by some of the knuckle draggers on this planet you wouldn’t believe it :p) must be quite high and to think we are the only ones is arrogant really and as for refunds no way they just let you come back for a bit of abducting or if your really lucky some inter breading with you lot. :highly_amused:

Geoff.

Hi All,
Whether they are real or not you all have to admit that even if just a fraction of what is reported just like Alien/UFO craft are true that’s still a fraction unaccounted for, I tend to be on the side of they are real…

To my mind, unaccounted for simply means “as yet unexplained”, it does not necessarily mean “real”…

So, the unaccounted events/instances may simpy be unexplained/unexplainable due to our lack of information or current lack of understanding, or they may indeed be “real” ghosts whatever they are.

Some Indonesian tribes used to believe evil “spirits” caused illness and death amongst the population, whereas the modern explanation is that disease and infection were/are the cause, and that fact that introduction of antibiotics and better hygeine practices has reduced rates of illness/death tends to support the “scientific” rationale.

For many people the workings of the internal combustion engine are outside their experience and understanding, but they still choose to believe that so long as there is fuel int he tank, then turning the ignition key will result in the engine runnning, and able to power their car from A to B.

I switch on my TV every day, and watch programs on it, yet I have only the vaguest notion, and no real understanding, of how an invisible radio signal can be produced, broadcast from a transmitter, move through space, be “captured ” by the metal aerial on my roof, sent down a cable, and then converted into a moving image and sound by the TV itself…. ’tis the work of the devil for sure ;), and as for wireless internet or skyping on a mobile phone :eek::eek:

i.e. lack of understanding by a participant/viewer does not necessarily mean something is paranormal (i.e beyond mankind’s future understanding or explanation), there may be prefectly rational explanation for the phenomena, but the viewer just hasn’t yet heard or understood it.

So, some ghostly/paranormal events are currently still seen as beyond our understanding, but in another few years or generations we, or our descendants, may well be able to fully explain/understand them… they may simply be viisual abberations caused by as yet unknown meterological circumstances, or they may be artefacts of the viewers subconscious imagination, or stress-induced products of unconscious memories…etc etc

As has been said in an earlier post on this thread, the fact that so many people nowadays have ready access to reasonable quaility/definition cameras/video cameras and audio recorders via their mobile phone, and yet there is still very little “good” contemporary evidence (i.e. able to withstand detailled logical scrutiny) leads me to be very skeptical – especially so far as ghosts are concerned.

UFOs, well, thats perhaps a different question….if there is an infinite universe, then logically there must be an infinite number of planets too, and there must then be a chance that life has evolved elsewhere (if you accept evolution as a route to “life”). If any of those other life forms have evolved to the point of developing space travel, then maybe those little green men in their flyign saucer are merely space tourists come to have gander at that little blue speck right out on the edge of the milky way….

Is it any wonder few of them choose to land/stop for very long once they see the mess we’re making of living on this place – they’re probably heading straight back to their travel agent on alpha centauri or Sirius 7 asking for their Flavian pobble beads back by way of a refund. 😀

Hi All,
Whether they are real or not you all have to admit that even if just a fraction of what is reported just like Alien/UFO craft are true that’s still a fraction unaccounted for, I tend to be on the side of they are real, as an example have any of you who own pets in particular Cats and Dogs, have you ever noticed how they appear to track something in motion when there is nothing about not even those pesky midges 😀 ? or ever noticed how they will sit and stair at a certain spot as if they are being spoken to sometimes even with ears raised ? I am certain that animals have the ability to see them better than us I am convinced the more I see Penny our last surviving Dog do it but the thing is all three Cats did it (RIP) and Pierce our other dog (RIP) did exactly the same.

Geoff.

Worse yet – the willies are in the plural!!:D He won’t weed that verge again, for sure……

Excuse me…..who put their willy up you??!!?

I nearly got ran over while bending over weeding the grass verge out the front of my house by a WWII vehicle, it really put the Willys up me !

haunted slippers The truth is out there lads 😉

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017476/I-m-haunted-dead-wife-year-died-Widower-says-told-wearing-slippers-sniffing-bed-grave.html

I think it would be a very boring world if we already knew 100% of everything that existed.

But it must be said the rationale for the existence of ghosts and spirits is very, very slight. I do come down on the side of it being people unable to find a rational explanation for a happening or phenomena defaulting to a simple, paranormal explanation.

Moggy

A figment of the imagination, that’s all.

What exactly is a ghost?
Is it the spirit of a person who is `stuck` on this plane of existence for some reason or,
just the replaying of some moment of time?
Why do ghosts seem to want to scare us, appear at night or otherwise do weird stuff that
living people do not?
BTW I don’t believe in ghosts but I am interested in what people think a ghost is.

I suppose these days even if there was really convincing footage of a ‘ghost’ caught on camera it would be difficult to accept it as genuine; the state-of-the-art with camera effects is so good, even at an amateur level, that it would be too easy to tamper with footage.

Why, despite practically everybody in the country having a high-definition, low-light capable, camera on them, almost every minute of the day and night, and the ability to self-publish images on YouTube, is the world not simply flooded with footage of ‘ghosts’?

Exactly. And why is it that with ghosts, UFO’s, nearly all “paranormal” activity, even the dear old Loch Ness Monster, there’s always just enough anecdotal evidence to make it interesting or exciting, but somehow never quite enough to prove it?