May 10, 2004 at 8:30 pm
Called in at Gloucestershire (Staverton) airport today. Javelin FAW9 (XH903) is on display at the gate. Very nice condition and floodlight at night apparently.
mmitch.
By: hypersonic - 26th December 2024 at 17:11
Was the Thunder City example (XA553) not filled with concrete? Certainly one of the airframes had been so treated, and as a result was not moved following the closure of the org.
Many of the airframes moved on further with Lightning F6 XP693 arriving at Binbrook. W+R 29 states it is to be followed by T5 XS452. Although not associated with Thunder City Javelin FAW4 XA634 is also at BK.
H
By: SimonDav - 26th December 2024 at 16:09
The Stanmore Park example that went to South Africa was scrapped earlier this year.
https://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/javelin/survivor.php?id=685
By: Sabrejet - 26th December 2024 at 15:51
Any chance of it being kept indoors?
Though it only seems like yesterday, when I started my BET at Halton in 1980 there were a number of Javelin wings that we’d use to do repairs on. I’ve come across XH767 a number of times at different places over the years: she needs a caring home.
Over the years I’ve watched the Manston Javelin being scrapped and IIRC the example at Stanmore Park went to South Africa. It would be nice to see one running again at least.
By: Andover115 - 26th December 2024 at 15:41
An update, as well as some further info. XH767, formerly of Worcester, Monkton Farleigh, Yatesbury, Norwich and Elvington is making its way, piece by piece to East Midlands Aeropark. The only candidate that might have engines, so therefore could be possibly ground run, is the example at Duxford. All other Javelins have gone through a similar basis to XH767, in that the rails inside the fuselage to slide the engines have been cut in a couple of places. Apparently this was common practice
By: DGH - 18th May 2004 at 21:54
The aircraft on the hill is XH768. The one at Hartlebury was XA821 which was scrapped 19/09/77. The Newton airframe was probably XH972 which was scrapped in 1967. Hope that helps.
Does anyone know the definate fate of a few others? XH839 & XH872 were preserved at Changi, Singapore while XH893 was derelict there and XH895 was in use for ground instruction. I believe these have know been scrapped but I would like to know for sure. Also XH890 was lying derelict out in Zambia at the beginning of the 1970’s, things dont tend to get scrapped out there much, does it still survive? In reality proberbly not but you never know.
By: galdri - 18th May 2004 at 21:39
Isn’t there for some reason a Javelin at a museum in Italy?
Correct Sir! 😀 It is a former gate guardian from a former German RAF base (whose name excapese me at the moment, but could be Gunslow ). I saw it on top of a hill just outside Rimini, Italy about one month ago. According to the thread (that can not be found anymore) it was in a very bad condition.
By: Ant.H - 18th May 2004 at 21:26
The Wright-built version of the Sapphire was the J65,and it seems it wasn’t as good an engine as the original.The changes Wright made to the engine meant that it was both heavier and less powerful (one source I have here states the J65 was the better part of 2,000lb down on power output compared to the original Sapphire!).The J65 was installed in the the Republic F84 Thunderstreak and RF84 Thunderflash and the combination of the under-performing engine and the heavywieght airframe made for some interesting take offs,interesting in the sense that take-off didn’t always occur!
By: dhfan - 18th May 2004 at 12:27
I’m pretty sure that the Americans manufactured a version of the Sapphire engine however. so that may offer some hope.
Wright bought a licence for the Sapphire. However, apart from Americanising it, they also totally re-designed it. I doubt they would fit easily.
By: mmitch - 16th May 2004 at 18:31
Wrecks and Relics list the Javelin at the top of the thread as being at Innsworth at one time. Can’t see one listed as being at Newton. Unless it was scrapped. 🙁
mmitch.
By: Last Lightning - 16th May 2004 at 17:18
Does anyone remember or know wat happened to the Gloster Javelin that was parked at the end of the runway at R.A.F. Newton in Nottinghamshire in the early 70’s?
same question for the one at RAF Innsworth in the early 90s
By: Peter - 16th May 2004 at 15:30
Does anyone remember this Javelin?
Does anyone remember or know wat happened to the Gloster Javelin that was parked at the end of the runway at R.A.F. Newton in Nottinghamshire in the early 70’s?
By: John(txic) - 16th May 2004 at 09:55
Dan
The one you are referring to was probably guarding the gate at the old MU at Hartlebury – I have similar childhood memories of seeing it.
So there were two in the County? Marvellous – so what happened to the Hartlebury a/c?
John
By: GPR - 15th May 2004 at 15:14
Running Javelins
I’m not sure how many Javelin’s actually have thier engines in still.
I’m pretty sure that the Americans manufactured a version of the Sapphire engine however. so that may offer some hope.
By: Peter - 15th May 2004 at 14:49
Out of all of the survivors, which would be the best candidate to get ground running again? Duxford?
By: lauriebe - 15th May 2004 at 02:46
Javelin swansong.
I have posted this before but it seems appropriate to do so again.
The very last Javelin line-up. No.60 Sqn at RAF Tengah, Singapore, the morning after their disbandment on 30 April 1968. There are 8 FAW 9R’s and 1 T3. The CO’s aeroplane is front and centre.
The disbandment parade and flypast took place at dusk that evening and was quite a moving experience.
I also remember XH903 from my days at RAF Innsworth. It sat outside my room in the Sgt’s Mess when I was there during the early 80’s.
BR,
Laurie.
By: Mark12 - 14th May 2004 at 11:13
Javelins at Farnborough
Here is a shot from my earliest schoolboy forays into photographing aircraft.
Farnborough 7th September 1957.
This just may be one element of a major squadron formation.
Mark
By: Steve Bond - 14th May 2004 at 07:45
The Javelin squadron at Wattisham was 41.
By: dhfan - 14th May 2004 at 01:13
Isn’t there for some reason a Javelin at a museum in Italy?
I’m sure there was recent thread mentioning this.
Elderly aircraft on top of a hill or similar.
The search doesn’t find anything but I don’t think I’m cracking up.
Well not about this, anyway.
By: Arm Waver - 13th May 2004 at 21:09
Just out of interest… What sort of work is required to change static ariframe into a running one? You know… What systems need to be checked and so on?
TIA
OAW
By: mike currill - 13th May 2004 at 21:02
Those photos revived some happy memories for me. As a cadet I was on summer camp at Wattisham when they still had a squadron of Javelins (41 or 43 can’t remember which, had the Lorraine cross on the fin). Bit of a pain when they were night flying though as attempts to get some sleep were interrupted by the pop af their starter cartridges going off follwed by that hellish whine they had when starting up. That said though there’s no denying I’d love to hear it again