November 14, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Is there anywhere I could find a list of RAF Gloster Meteor crashes which gives the pilots name at all?
Many Thanks
OG
By: paulmcmillan - 16th November 2010 at 09:27
When I was trying to solve this.. I found reference in a book to the
“Gloustershire Meteor”
I could be worse, like the Lancashire Buccanear
By: Old Git - 15th November 2010 at 18:38
25.4.53 Meteor F.8 WF747 600 Sqn at Chelsfield, Kent. Lost hood and ejector seat operated; dived into ground 1 killed
The Times, Monday, Apr 27, 1953; pg. 3; Issue 52606; col D
A Royal Air Force jet Meteor fighter from Biggin Hill crashed near Chelsfield Kent, on Saturday, having flown on after the pilot
had bailed out. The body of the pilot was found in the ejector seat of the aircraft seven miles away
Paul – My sincere thanks for such a magnificent and prompt piece of detective work!
THUNDERBIRD 167 – Thank you also for the additional link.
Many Thanks
Best Regards
Keith (OG)
By: pagen01 - 15th November 2010 at 17:14
Looks like PM has answered your query beautifully, but there is also a really good online resource for British service aircraft losses usually with a short description of the event. I can’t find it at mo, but believe it’s related to ‘Demobbed’ etc.
By: Joe Petroni - 15th November 2010 at 16:49
I have got a book called Meteor Eject! by Nick Carter.
It has details of all the Meteor crashes, seem to remember it was around 900:eek:
By: Thunderbird167 - 15th November 2010 at 16:31
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=20677
A bit more about it here
By: paulmcmillan - 15th November 2010 at 14:37
25.4.53 Meteor F.8 WF747 600 Sqn at Chelsfield, Kent. Lost hood and ejector seat operated; dived into ground 1 killed
The Times, Monday, Apr 27, 1953; pg. 3; Issue 52606; col D
A Royal Air Force jet Meteor fighter from Biggin Hill crashed near Chelsfield Kent, on Saturday, having flown on after the pilot
had bailed out. The body of the pilot was found in the ejector seat of the aircraft seven miles away
By: paulmcmillan - 15th November 2010 at 14:35
Armed Forces Memorial
http://www.veterans-uk.info/afm/
The roll of honour – Personal details
Surname
MUNTZ
Forenames/Initials
Colin Lee Irving
Rank
Fg Off
Service
Royal Air Force
Service Number
3129265
Station
RAF Biggin Hill
Date of Birth
23 March 1929
Age
24
Date of Death
25 April 1953
Cemetery Name
Biggin Hill Cemetery
Cemetery Address
Kent
Grave Number
189
Included on Armed Forces Memorial
Yes
Included on Roll of Honour
Yes
By: paulmcmillan - 15th November 2010 at 14:32
Colin L I Muntz Born London 1929
re: his father
Frederick Alan Irving ‘Alan’ Muntz died March 7th 1985
In his Obit, it says “His only son as killed flying a Meteor jet shortly after the last war”
That means he was 16 when that photo of him was taken, that was printed in Flight.. He got his Aero Cert in 1950, (aged 21) so we are looking for an accident after 1949… If anyone can pull a death year for him, it will narrow it down
By: Phantom Phil - 15th November 2010 at 13:43
If it’s an ejection seat problem then I guess Meteor F8…
By: Old Git - 15th November 2010 at 13:34
Or if you have a date for a particular incident then put a question on here!
Paul – Well I don’t have the date but here’s hoping! I am trying to find out the aircraft serial and the date of the accident which killed the son of one of the Airwork founders. His name was Colin Muntz (Father was Alan Muntz) and his half sister tells me that she thinks it was a malfunction with an ejector seat while he was in a Gloster Meteor. She has no other details other than it was maybe 1950. However if you put his name in the Flight Archive in 1988 it shows a picture of him and mentions he was killed in an RAF Meteor 2 or 3 years after the photo was taken (1946). The other thing she did say was that he had left the RAF and she thought he was working for De Havilland.
I was staggered to read that there were so many Meteor accidents (890 losses).
Best Regards
OG
By: paulmcmillan - 15th November 2010 at 12:37
Or if you have a date for a particular incident then put a question on here!
By: paulmcmillan - 15th November 2010 at 12:37
Colin Cummings series of books on RAF Losses should cover this
Such as
The Price of Peace: A Catalogue of RAF Aircraft Losses Between VE-Day and End of 1945
Final Landings: A Summary of RAF Aircraft Accidents and Combat Losses 1946 to 1949
Last Take-off: A Record of RAF Aircraft Losses 1950 to 1953
Category Five: A Catalogue of RAF Aircraft Losses 1954 to 2009
By: Peter - 14th November 2010 at 23:24
Tweaked the title slightly in case anyone worries about a recent accident…