Going to Seattle

I would not say that I like short cuts but I don’t have the medical for the JAR CPL. Then again if its cheaper and quicker I do get excited. Im not saying all those have judged me to a low level and I have some good freinds in this room, but some people really do take things a little to far some times.

As for word well I have note pad, danm xp.

Thank’s for the advice, I have more flying and my Navagation exam to do on Sunday:((((((((((((((

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

My longest response ever!

I cannot tell you comprehensively which is easier because I did the whole course in the US and only did the conversion in the UK, which doesn’t require any flying – just a couple of easy exams.

For my own personal circumstances, Florida was perfect because I could fly twice a day everyday which means you keep very current. The time it takes in England with its foul weather and huge gaps in between lessons would not have worked for me. It would have taken forever.

Also, I have found flying instructors in England (there are exceptions – mainly military) are atrocious. They give poor briefs and debriefs and seem to care more about hour-building for their ATPLs. Perhaps I’m a victim of sexual discrimination. We GA pilots have all seen other pilots do dumb stuff, like break nose wheels, go the wrong way around the circuit and cut you up on final approach. Now if their instruction had been any good, there is no way they should be doing dumb stuff like that. I blame the instructors, not the just the pilots.

In the US, you also do night training and learn how to use VORs which gives you one-up on British pilots.

In the US, when I learnt, there were 1500, possible questions in the exam. You bought a book with all of them in, with the answers of course. The exam would include 150 of these questions. So you should know the answers, because you already owned the book that had them in it. Now that’s what I call easy!

Bottom line: The information you learn is virtually the same in both countries, so they are as easy as one another. However, the learning technique in the US, I think, is better for me as a sport pilot.

Do note that when you come back to the UK you have to learn a few things like how to read the UK maps and what to do when you see a cloud! But that’s easy too.

I can see you like short cuts to success. The best short cut is to read all the theory before you fly. It may not make much sense in the early days, but as you learn more about practical flying the theory will slot into place and be a real joy to learn. If you leave it until later it will seem like a chore. Learning is fun. Cheating-style short cuts can be dangerous which just means you will have a very short flying life!

One last suggestion, after you have typed your response, copy & paste it into Word. Make sure the spell checker is working. Correct any missteaks (!) and paste it back into the Forum. Success every time!

Spelling mistakes would not matter if it were not for the fact that people judge you by them. As you have already said, you feel you have been misjudged. Maybe the spelling made you look worse than you really are.

Good luck.

English, where to start…. (Scratches his nose looking skywards)

Well im not sure im much of an entertainer but I can speak and read english. Maybe for the reason that I type 50 words a min has something to do with the fact I make a few errors. For I always have done rather well in English. I did not think that you would have a problem with a few spelling errors.

I mean really I do ingnore other peoples spelling, then again I don’t think showing this to my CFI would do any good or harm except make me look a little stupid.

Thank’s for your imput and maybe one day I might come back and read this, as I will save it and take a look at it in say 2009.

How did you find the U.S training over say…………….. the u.k JAR training, I here the FAA is easier to pass???

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

Oh, this is just SO entertaining.

Robert: Have you done the Human Factors exam yet?

Now, if English is not your first language or, if you have had learning difficulties or, if you have dyslexia or, if you keyboard is incorrectly wired, I have absolutely every sympathy for you, writing as you do. And I mean that.

However, if none of these are the case, you may struggle to get a job, even if you are superb in the cockpit. I just hope you can sort it out.

Here’s a suggestion, Robert. Why don’t you print off this thread and show it to someone you really respect – say your flying instructor and get him to make a judgement as to whether your attitude needs tweaking or not. I’m sure he will give you the facts.

Also, why don’t you hold onto this paper copy and read it again in 10-years’ time to see what you think of it, yourself.

And if it helps you to respect my advice, I don’t like to brag, but I have both US and UK licences, several hundred hours, complex and high performance ratings etc etc. I won’t bore you.

Good luck and do keep us entertained.

Janie

Originally posted by skycruiser
R.Weaver, may I suggest before setting of to complete your CPL you attend a CRM course. This might open your eyes as the way you are putting yourself across to others.;)

Or at least stop murdering the ruddy English language !!!! , can they test for dyslexia these days ????;) . I can’t make any sense of his post content .

R.Weaver, may I suggest before setting of to complete your CPL you attend a CRM course. This might open your eyes as the way you are putting yourself across to others.;)

Yes I did remove it and I thank you for your imput, really im not trying to be rude of carn but I do really like be a part of this forum and moggy, plese would you stop using the termonalogy “grow up” for I have done so for a much as a 16 year old solo pilot can.

I thank-you and for the day I gain my CPL my ambition of life will of set in for I will be doing what I dream of, and if any of you are ever in the area you are welcome to a chat and a coffie at a mine free.

For I do listern and I do thank you for your advide and well I really am proud to be a part of todays pilot forum.

Onwards and upwards to ever who aspire.

Regards

R.weaver

Safe leagal flying

Lets call it a day MOGGY, freinds o.k, for I don’t normally say this but I did find your reply about mist of my comments being carass, here from you soon, for I can’t settle things any better than this.

R. Weaver. (Is your name Robert as I find R Weaver so impersonal?)

The problem, such as it is, lies with you. I perceived that you were being rude and disrespectful to certain people who happen to be my friends. That’s all. And that’s why I took issue with you. Some of those people have successful careers in aviation, others have successful careers in other areas and fly recreationally. It was me who took offense. You appear to throw people’s advice back at them and that is such a shame. I really do wish you luck in your career and hope that you are successful in achieving your aims.

As for leaving the forum? That is up to you, but if I were you I would stay. There is much to be learned and I freely admit I have learned an awful lot in the two years I have been here. There is much to share including the spirit of goodwill and co-operation you so rightly mentioned before. So stay, contribute, and soak up all the information you can. And in the future, when you post on this forum that you have your CPL, I will be the first to congratulate you.

I hope you read this post in the spirit which is intended.

Ah, I have just noticed you have removed the post which led to this reply.

Regards,

kev35

Originally posted by Moggy C
Kev, for he it was, has made many contributions to these fora, packed with good sense, accuracy of fact and a genuine feeling for all that is good about the history and current day state of aviation and aviators.

You have made a few postings. Mostly stuffed to the gills with utter bollox.

Persume (sic) what you like. But ideally read what he has written and try to think how it applies to you. Huh?

Moggy

Well, I think that nails the issue beautifully!! Don’t think I could have been more succint if I had tried! Maybe in time, a little more maturity and thought from the thread originator might help to not offend and upset so many people……….

Originally posted by R.weaver

Im persuming most of you dont follow what the guy with the BA747 picture says.

Kev, for he it was, has made many contributions to these fora, packed with good sense, accuracy of fact and a genuine feeling for all that is good about the history and current day state of aviation and aviators.

You have made a few postings. Mostly stuffed to the gills with utter bollox.

Persume (sic) what you like. But ideally read what he has written and try to think how it applies to you. Huh?

Moggy

Oh quite I do agree Steve, attitute is what sorts the men from the boys, im sorry if I have ever came across tude, it must be the way I phrase myself, im told by most im quite pleasant. I would like to thank all for any contributions whether they were intentional or not.

If any of you do feal I have upset you in any way I invite you to say so and a formal letter of the issue will be sent to you.

Im persuming most of you dont follow what the guy with the BA747 picture says. Even to you I thank you for your honesty.

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

Originally posted by SteveYoung
A little bit of advice. You can chose whether to accept it, or bat it straight back at me if you feel you know best…

Ability is useful, but attitude is everything.

Remember that when / if you ever find yourself applying for employment in aviation.

But I guess the trick (for those who need to) is to notice WHEN there is a problem that needs sorting, rather than waiting for it to be pointed out – or maybe I’m being old-fashioned.

Originally posted by R.weaver
Closing the subject, I will not be getting any shocks for my current performance is good so im told by my Instructor and that I KNOW WHERE IM GOING.

A little bit of advice. You can chose whether to accept it, or bat it straight back at me if you feel you know best…

Ability is useful, but attitude is everything.

Remember that when / if you ever find yourself applying for employment in aviation.

R. Weaver.

“Why should you like to know, dont you have the dream job?”

I went to school, admittedly a long time ago now, but one of the things I learned was what simple manners were and a little about rudeness. If the quote from you above does not come under the criteria of rudeness it is all of us who should despair.

“If you had done your homework you would find that I have e-mail contacts with many of these pilots and that I am not frowning apon thier advice.”

If you had done your homework you would know and understand the criteria for gaining a CPL. I too have email contacts but what on earth that has to do with it I fail to understand.

“As a non-aviatior I dont know if to smile or dispair, for the reason that you seam to be questioning me when from your prevoius posts you seam to be more of a teaser than a contributer.”

Please smile, it makes the world a much happier place. In the time I have been here I think you will find I have contributed quite a bit. Have a read through all my posts if you have the desire. I can take constructive criticism, you it seems cannot.

“Now I am thanking you for your imput and well if I ever end up flying you as you stated, to MAKE SUCH A STUPID COMMENT such as I hope R.weaver doe’s not fly me I find rahter petty, simply for the reason that I would not be flying you unless I had passed the required checkrides by highly experinaced examiners.”

I retract nothing. You fail to listen to advice from those who have experience and treat other people’s comments with disdain. You only have to read comments by two of the forum’s pilots on a thread about air/ground communications.

“The comment itslef reflects your lack of good will and community spirit with this forum, but I will thank you for your imput and I will thank you for your regards.”

Now that is funny. My lack of good will and community spirit? That is disingenuous and, incidentally, a long way from the truth. I do sincerely wish you well in your chosen career.

I did notice however that following my first post in this thread there were three responses. Two of them from pilots, none of them disagreed with me.

Regards,

kev35

That’s all of us told then!

I don’t quite see how I am being rude, im just being told what I have been by certain Instructors, nor do I find that I have superior knowlege over those who know better than me, I don’t think anybody is in position to question some of the highly experinaced pilots in this forum. And to that I take my hat off to them, never have I once been rude or broken the rules, nor will I ever conduct ilegal operations in which I was clearly asking and not doing-so. If you had done your homework you would find that I have e-mail contacts with many of these pilots and that I am not frowning apon thier advice.

As a non-aviatior I dont know if to smile or dispair, for the reason that you seam to be questioning me when from your prevoius posts you seam to be more of a teaser than a contributer.

Now I am thanking you for your imput and well if I ever end up flying you as you stated, to MAKE SUCH A STUPID COMMENT such as I hope R.weaver doe’s not fly me I find rahter petty, simply for the reason that I would not be flying you unless I had passed the required checkrides by highly experinaced examiners.

The comment itslef reflects your lack of good will and community spirit with this forum, but I will thank you for your imput and I will thank you for your regards.

Closing the subject, I will not be getting any shocks for my current performance is good so im told by my Instructor and that I KNOW WHERE IM GOING.

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

Sorry for the disruption to the other members.

A very eloquent repsonse Kev, with which I have much sympathy. As a non-flying earthling at present, although I am hoping to change that in the not too distant future, I have been constantly amazed at some of the missives emanating for said person. I don’t profess to be an expert by any manner of means, although I like to think that I have a reasonable grasp of things aeronautical, but some of the suggestions have certainly raised the eyebrows!! I know of at least one other forum member who has tried not to “rise to the bait” as it were, but I guess if you are fortunate enough to be a PPL or above, with the commensurate experience, it must be difficult to bite your tongue!

I await, with bated breath the reponse that will undoubtedly come, complete with his experiences in Seattle. Maybe he needs to speak to Dr Frasier Crane ………….! Maybe he IS Frasier Crane, or Niles ……or maybe Eddy!

nice post Kev….:)

Careful Kev, he’ll be demanding an apology for that… 😉

R. Weaver.

I’m not a pilot, nor will I ever be so good luck to all those that either are pilots or are in training. So, from the point of view of an outsider I have to say I would be seriously afraid if I were to find on some occasion that R Weaver was the pilot flying an aircraft I had just boarded. In the short time he has been here he has tried to find out if he can break the rules by hiring himself out as a pilot but not declaring it, he has not listened to advice from pilots posting on here, some of whom are very experienced, and contradicts himself. Here’s an example.

“It must be you, if you read the artice correctly from which I posted you will find I stated that, just for the reason that I stated an aircraft like the 152 being in his category of specification, you will find I have answed his question to a more than satisfactory standard with some of my own imput off the matter included.”

Nicely phrased with just a tinge of rudeness and disrespect. And now the contradiction.

“I didnt get the information from an article I actually got it from a FAA CFI who told me the facts, you see the JAR requires you do you training on a complex aircaft, e.g:c177,182/arrow. (For CPL)”

I said on the historic forum earlier today that these boards are a fantastic resource with people being so helpful. Yet R Weaver seems to constantly disabuse of this fact with his tone of posting and his inference that ‘he knows best.’ Try asking Wysiwyg, Moondance, Whisky delta and Skycruiser how many hours they have to their credit and what they do for a living? or the PPL’s who’ve done it the hard way. And then try listening to them and taking their advice.

I know I shouldn’t get involved in this but people really are trying to help you forward in your chosen career and you have the temerity to tell them they are wrong? They already have the qualifications you aspire to. Listen to them, learn from them and be successful. I wish you every success in your future career but feel it may be short lived unless you change your attitude.

Sorry for butting in guys but I hate to see such blatant disrespect towards those who have already achieved. It seems humility and even courtesy are things of the past.

Regards,

kev35