Green tax

Well we will find out the damage later today when GB makes his pre-budget statement.

Why am I filled with dread and the thought that we are going to get shafted good and proper.

Also why is it that just as I think I am getting to a point of being slightly better off some “person” moves the goal posts?

We civil servants still not had annual pay “rise” yet – although with inflation rate as it REALLY is it is a negative pay rise – and there will be no late payment interest or anything added to it and it will be nicely taxed thank you!

I have held back from replying to this thread for a time, but to be honest, I’ve never read such a load of bolloks.

Until you very brave Tree huggers get off your **** and go and tell the yanks, china, japan, india to stop doing what there doing you are pissing in the wind. I would love to save the planet, but i’ll be ****** if i’m doing it on my own.
Shout at them, make them stop, then I’ll listen.

mick ellis

cart them all off to the Moon, they cant kill whats already dead. 😉

Don’t mess with mother Nature.

I have held back from replying to this thread for a time, but to be honest, I’ve never read such a load of bolloks.

Until you very brave Tree huggers get off your **** and go and tell the yanks, china, japan, india to stop doing what there doing you are pissing in the wind. I would love to save the planet, but i’ll be ****** if i’m doing it on my own.
Shout at them, make them stop, then I’ll listen.

mick ellis

No need to worry mick, there isn’t much anyone can do to save the Planet from Global Warming. It’s to late now, we will just have to adapt to the weather as best we can. Hot parts of the world such as Africa, will become deserts eventually. Which means the British Isles will be welcoming many refugees from there, to live here. Believe it or not, Britain and some parts of Europe will still remain fairly cool, compared to Africa and the far east.
These are the facts about Global warming sadly, to little to late in my opinion.
Anyhow, don’t forget to pay your 21st century global taxes. 😀 😀
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I have held back from replying to this thread for a time, but to be honest, I’ve never read such a load of bolloks.

Until you very brave Tree huggers get off your **** and go and tell the yanks, china, japan, india to stop doing what there doing you are pissing in the wind. I would love to save the planet, but i’ll be ****** if i’m doing it on my own.
Shout at them, make them stop, then I’ll listen.

mick ellis

Woman gets £50 fine for recycling

Oh my God someone trys to help the environment and gets a £50 fine for doing so, giving a fine to someone who made a mistake but acted with good intentions and in the interest of the environment is not the way to win people over to the whole “green idea” is it.

we have to admit that us humans are slowly but surely killing the planet we live on, it is not right us British should pay a green tax when the real damage is being done in other parts of the world, stop China, USA, japan and the likes burning as much fossil fuels, stop Brazil and the likes cutting down all that rain forest, stop African and Asian poachers slaughtering Rhinos, Tigers, Gorrillas.
it is about time us Humans with all our brain power relise, the way we are going at the momment, our childrens children will have a terrible place to live, we have to do something about it pretty soon, a tax to line the governments pocket is a half hearted, piontless solution.

Green tax? Are you kidding me? And here I was thinking I’d move to England in a few years to get away from this hell-hole. Thanks for obliterating that idea.

I agree:

Less Rubbish… in this case the “rubbish” are politicos thinking another tax will solve the problem.

Yet one more tax. And then when that doesn’t produce results….. Then what? Another tax….? and another?

Here is some good reading on the carbon footprint scam:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195195,00.html

OOPS…

I think it was That Was The Week That Was, rather than Monty Python.

Unless Ronnie Corbett was a secret Python………. 😀

Oh yes, thanks for putting me straight on that one Grey area, quite a funny one that. 😀 😀
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I think it was That Was The Week That Was, rather than Monty Python.

Unless Ronnie Corbett was a secret Python………. 😀

I think if the government made a concerted effort to show the public that they are making an effort as well would go a long way, do you see them giving up their cars and using public transport? do you see them reducing the amount of pathetically useless trips abroad they go on whilst also flying business class and wasting our money? do you see TB cycling to work? (security risk I know), maybe if 2 Jags Prescott got off his large backside and cycled to work he’d be less of a burden on the NHS in years to come. I want to do my bit, and I want to contribute, but it just get’s me quite irate when I see the double standards being set by this government all the time, and the cynic in me would come out and say that green tax is all about raising the amount of money in the coffer’s pocket and little else.
Again I come back to the public transport infrastructure, it’s unreliable, it’s dirty, it’s outdated, there isn’t enough of it, it isn’t cost effective and it isn’t time effective.
I am very conscious of being green, I tell my wife now that we are to switch off our baby monitors during the day, as well as alarm clocks, unused electrical items, no lights left on at night, no TVs etc on standby, everything that can be recycled get’s recycled, but I won’t give up my car, and why not? read above

That’s right it’s 2 tier Britain, one for the working class, and one for the elite upper class. Do you recall that old Monty Python sketch, which demonstrated the 3 different class structures in Britain. Nothing changes, it’s still evident these days. So it follows that your average working class, middle class individual will get caned the most with green taxes. It wont bother the upper class with all their financial clout.
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I think if the government made a concerted effort to show the public that they are making an effort as well would go a long way, do you see them giving up their cars and using public transport? do you see them reducing the amount of pathetically useless trips abroad they go on whilst also flying business class and wasting our money? do you see TB cycling to work? (security risk I know), maybe if 2 Jags Prescott got off his large backside and cycled to work he’d be less of a burden on the NHS in years to come. I want to do my bit, and I want to contribute, but it just get’s me quite irate when I see the double standards being set by this government all the time, and the cynic in me would come out and say that green tax is all about raising the amount of money in the coffer’s pocket and little else.
Again I come back to the public transport infrastructure, it’s unreliable, it’s dirty, it’s outdated, there isn’t enough of it, it isn’t cost effective and it isn’t time effective.
I am very conscious of being green, I tell my wife now that we are to switch off our baby monitors during the day, as well as alarm clocks, unused electrical items, no lights left on at night, no TVs etc on standby, everything that can be recycled get’s recycled, but I won’t give up my car, and why not? read above

Absolute madness!

The downside of a prosperous market economy, I suppose.

This week a seafood company based in Scotland announced it will transport prawns from the uk to Thailand to be shelled, then transport them all the way back here again to be packaged.Apparently its cheaper than using the local labour.
What is the point in joe public trying to reduce his “carbon footprint” when this sort of thing is going on?

Capitalist world.

I see many of these suggestions are aimed at the “common man”, But what about the rich…a 24 pound a day congestion charge will prevent the average guy from driving in London, but not the rich.

Something has to be done to spread the burden.
What about private jets, multiple homes that hhave to be heated all year, and the MD’s Rolls?

Well it’s the common man that is making most of the pollution, while he works for the rich. So that’s the way of the Capitalist world, tough isn’t it. Let’s face it, if you aint at the top of the Tree, you’ll just have to go along with it.
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I see many of these suggestions are aimed at the “common man”, But what about the rich…a 24 pound a day congestion charge will prevent the average guy from driving in London, but not the rich.

Something has to be done to spread the burden.
What about private jets, multiple homes that hhave to be heated all year, and the MD’s Rolls?

Turning on and off is not so easy for bright lights as used in lamp posts. If they were LED based then you’d certainly save power but with existing bulbs I would guess flicking them on and off for traffic and pedestrians would result in dramatically shorter bulb life, which would be expensive if the cost of lighting at sports venues is anthing to go by

In that case why not turn them all off from 12am until 6am, there is no real need to have the whole of the country lit up all through the early hours. Turning all the lampposts off for 6 hours would save energy, save money and reduce light pollution etc. However it won’t make the Govt any cash so it’s doubtful if it will ever happen. Sorry to say this but I feel like this green tax idea is just a way to boost tax. There are real useful things that could be done to help the environment without the need to tax us in yet more ways.

THINK ABOUT YOUR ENVIRONMENT..

All this one sided environmental evangelism is becoming very tiresome.Any scientific hypothesis has more than one point of view so why do we never hear any other angle on climate change?
The UK contributes something like 2% to this, so in reality anything we do matters little.It has to be tackled on a global scale, not just by swelling government coffers via a simple knee jerk reaction to an economists report.
Just an excuse to raise taxes by making us all feel guilty I fear.

Well judging by the amount of Fireworks around here tonight, there is plenty of money being wasted, in the process of polluting the Air we breathe. So perhaps if severe Green taxes were introduced, less money would be wasted on fireworks , Gambling and Booze. Lets start thinking about the environment we live in, instead of wasting money on self gratification. We also need to stop over development in Towns, and think about retaining green land for the environment. However I guess we are stuck with over development.
All over development does, is make the property developer richer, such are the evils of capitalism.

We need to show other Countries the way to think Green, in 2007.
NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT.
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All this one sided environmental evangelism is becoming very tiresome.Any scientific hypothesis has more than one point of view so why do we never hear any other angle on climate change?
The UK contributes something like 2% to this, so in reality anything we do matters little.It has to be tackled on a global scale, not just by swelling government coffers via a simple knee jerk reaction to an economists report.
Just an excuse to raise taxes by making us all feel guilty I fear.

The way forward.

It’s about time we realised, the effect we are having on the environment and the Planet. If this means having a lower standard of living, then so be it. If we can show the world the way to go, whilst maintaining a reasonable standard of living, it will be a good thing. We can make plenty of changes to our life styles, which would help, here are a few.

Less Holidays abroad.

Smaller Car.

Smaller House.

More cycling and walking.

Using less energy.

Using less Water.

Less Rubbish.

Spend more on Green taxes, and less on yourself.

This is the way forward, let’s hope we all make an effort to reduce our abuse of the Planet.

Let’s hope the Government quickly brings in Green reforms, before it’s to late.
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