Grose & Feary Monoplane built 1909 in Oakington Cambs

Published by Old Forge, 2004, ISBN 0-9544507-5-2.

www.oldforgepublishing.co.uk/planetoplane.html

There are some annoying typos, and one or two factual errors, but on the whole I learned a lot about a Peterborough site with which I was familar but did not know the details.

Laurence

Those who make no mistakes, do nothing at all!

Thanks muchly 🙂

Roger Smith.

Published by Old Forge, 2004, ISBN 0-9544507-5-2.

www.oldforgepublishing.co.uk/planetoplane.html

There are some annoying typos, and one or two factual errors, but on the whole I learned a lot about a Peterborough site with which I was familar but did not know the details.

Laurence

thanks for that Laurence.

Any chance of an ISBN no. or the publisher?

Roger Smith.

Sages

It is a long time since the last post here, but I just got back from Peterborough, where the Sage’s factory still exists, although not as Sage’s. I bought a recent book called “Plane to Plane” by Martyn Chorlton, with lots of photos of Sage-built Be2Cs, Avro 504s and Shorts 184s, as well as their own Types 1 to 4.
The factory was also used in 1936 to make Aeronca 100s.
Laurence

Does anybody have any Sage aircraft photos or a photo of their works at Peterborough??

I discovered yesterday that Neville Alexander Feary worked for Frederick Sage & Co. Ltd between 1916 & 1919. There are 9 patents filed by Sage in this period with Feary as the inventor.
Can anyone throw any more light on Sage’s aircraft or Feary being a designer there?

thanks

Nick

They were a Peterborough Firm of shop fittters who produced a small range of prototypes for the Admiralty The best known being the Sage Type 2 two- seat fighter biplane with its peculiar glazed cabin. There was also the Type 3 trainer and types 4a 4b &4c seaplanes.
Jack Bruce’s Classic “British Aeroplanes 1914 -18” provides a ready reference.

I discovered yesterday that Neville Alexander Feary worked for Frederick Sage & Co. Ltd between 1916 & 1919. There are 9 patents filed by Sage in this period with Feary as the inventor.
Can anyone throw any more light on Sage’s aircraft or Feary being a designer there?

thanks

Nick

British Aircraft 1809 – 1914

Roger

Thank you very much for the information, I have not seen it before. The involvement of Capt. W. G. Windham is new to me as is the dimensional info.

I did have a reference to their “patented stabilising apparatus”, but did not know what it was. I assume it must be the ailerons, but I have seen a photo of a 1908 Bleriot VIII with them on.

I wonder where Peter Lewis got his information from?

Many thanks again

Nick

Hi Nick, welcome to the forum.

The Grose and Feary Monoplane appears on page 294 of Peter Lewis’s Putnam book “British Aircraft 1809 – 1914” (1962).

I will quote what Lewis wrote in case you cannot access (or have not already seen).

“A. M. Grose and N. A. Feary designed their tractor monoplane during 1909, for construction by Capt. W. G. Windham at his Windham Detachable Motor Body Co., of Clapham Junction, London, S.W.11. It was finished in April, 1910, at Oakington, Cambs. The machine was a single-seater and was powered by a four-cylinder 25 h.p. Advance engine. The wings were equipped with a patented lateral stability device. Span, 26 ft. Length, 25 ft. Wing area 160 sq. ft.”

The accompanying photograph is the same as the one you show but without the title at the bottom.

Hope this might be of some use.

Additionally I should treat the report that it “was taken to de Havilland’s at Hatfield” with some suspicion. I don’t know the dates off-hand (although I know there are others on the forum that will) but DH was formed after World War One at Stag Lane and only later moved to Hatfield.

Roger Smith.