Ground runners

Hi Buccsociety,
Thanks for the offer,but there is no need now as we have found some good scrubbers:D

Excellent, excellent I say 😀 😀

If you saw this aircraft now, you would not believe what condition she was in when the guys first got hold of her some 10 years ago, no engines, stripped cockpit, missing components etc, the list is quite exhaustive, but 333 has had a dedicated team behind her and they have worked miracles to get her to the status she is now.

Bamel, if you know or are in contact with young Roger Wintle, ask him if he would like to borrow a pressure washer, he’ll know what your talking about!!:D

Hi Buccsociety,
Thanks for the offer,but there is no need now as we have found some good scrubbers:D

Didn’t they run the engines of the ME-410 AND FW-190 when they were at Cosford?- i don’t know where the ‘410 is now, but remember seeing the ‘190 at hendon a few years ago (obviously silent!!) – but i can’t bring myself to go there anymore knowing that ‘Black 6’ was interned there and is quite capable of flight but won’t ever get off the ground again even though there was a ‘109 there already

Me 410 is at cosford, i totally agree with you about black 6, i saw it fly when i was younger, and when i saw it at hendon, devoid of life, 🙁

Didn’t they run the engines of the ME-410 AND FW-190 when they were at Cosford?- i don’t know where the ‘410 is now, but remember seeing the ‘190 at hendon a few years ago (obviously silent!!) – but i can’t bring myself to go there anymore knowing that ‘Black 6’ was interned there and is quite capable of flight but won’t ever get off the ground again even though there was a ‘109 there already

Vulcan XM575 at East Midlands has its apu and electrical systems run up on occasions 🙂

The engines in said Vulcan are also runnable but sadly they are not allowed to start them due to noise regulations (and to think its kept at a busy airport).

Also the Buccaneer at East Midlands has working engines but is also unable to be run up for the same reason as the Vulcan.

Similar story at Newcastle International airport. When the aviation academy took delivery of the 737-200, they were informed that they were not allowed to run the engines due to noise levels and the proximity of residential properties, which really ruined their day. They are allowed to run up the APU for the minimum time required. The Vulcan at East Mids would come under the same thing. Noise regulations at airports are very strict regarding regular re-occuring noise (i.e. flights using old jets and sustained ground runs of the same.)

thanks Bamel

Good to see her kept in running condition. Dad loves the old cartridge starts.

Any video shot and also did she taxi at all?

Hi Peter,
No Video on this one and we did not taxi this time,we need a pilot and clear runway for that,the runway at Brunty is mainly used as a car test track and so has one or two cones on it……but not as many as the M6 😀

great pics Bamel

Any video shot and also did she taxi at all?

Hi,
A couple of pics of WT333 during a recent engine run,
pics by P Severn
there are a few more on the UKAR site;

What?!

Vulcan XM575 at East Midlands has its apu and electrical systems run up on occasions 🙂

The engines in said Vulcan are also runnable but sadly they are not allowed to start them due to noise regulations (and to think its kept at a busy airport)

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Oh give me a break! I can see if the boys were running 575 at a howling full throttle but surely an idle wouldnt be that bad? Saying this though when her apu is powered up, do they turn the engines over?

Vulcan XM575 at East Midlands has its apu and electrical systems run up on occasions 🙂

The engines in said Vulcan are also runnable but sadly they are not allowed to start them due to noise regulations (and to think its kept at a busy airport).

Also the Buccaneer at East Midlands has working engines but is also unable to be run up for the same reason as the Vulcan.

Someone mentioned to me a while ago that it was also due to H&S regulations… B****rds.

Isn’t the Varsity also (still) runnable? I remember it doing engine runs quite a few years ago…

Vulcan XM575 at East Midlands has its apu and electrical systems run up on occasions 🙂

The engines in said Vulcan are also runnable but sadly they are not allowed to start them due to noise regulations (and to think its kept at a busy airport).

Also the Buccaneer at East Midlands has working engines but is also unable to be run up for the same reason as the Vulcan.

Don’t forget the Jags ( oh, and a few lesser types ) at Cosford and Cranwell !

Jet Provost T3’s XM355 and XM419 at Newcastle College. Currently stored awaiting a new hangar. They will be returned to fully operational condition by September next year.

I was at Newcastle airport back in August recovering a Tonka and saw these two ladies in the hanger next to the Collage, we did wonder about their fate, thanks for answering the question I hadn’t yet asked Lindy’s Lad!

I can see what you mean about waiting for a new Hangar, the one they are in was a state, looks like it could collapse at any moment! We still managed to cram 2 F3’s and a GR4 in with your girls though! Bad week to be a sootie on Tonkas!

Hi all, if it’s any help, I saw the vulcan at Newark do it’s apu, bomb doors and bits moving ! IIRC it was April ish 2006.
Also in 2004 (sometime) I saw a very smokey shak running up at Coventry ! took a lot of getting going ! but worth the effort. Keith.

Good shout re the Binbrook Lightning Ant H, not heard a thing for a long time now, anyone else heard anything from the Lincs Wolds ?

TwinOtter – The insurance side of things worry me, and funding is a nagging concern once running costs start to climb. I would value any pointers on this side of op’s.
I heard taxiable aircraft were classed as ‘three wheel dragsters’ by insurance underwriters ?

Any more runners to note, before i start to put together a list ?

Is the Mighty Vanguard at Brooklands still kept in ground running condition?

Good shout, Joe. Yep, the Brooklands Vanguard/Merchantman is still occasionally ground run, although she’s not taxied now that she’s been moved off the old airfield site and into the museum’s grounds. She’s the last complete Vanguard, so would I be right in saying she’s unique in being a ground running only-survivor? As far as I’m aware there are other examples of all the other types that are kept in ground running order.

Scanning through the above posts, we seem to have forgotten a Lightning. Is the Lightning Assoc’s example (XR724) at Binbrook still in ‘live’ condition?

There’s also a couple more Lancs to add, both in Canada. FM159 has had one engine run already, and work continues toward bringing her up to taxiiable status. There’s also some hope that FM212 might be brought back to life in a similar fashion one day.

Jaguar?

Does anyone know if any museum, group, organisation or individual is planning to keep a ‘live’ Jaguar as a ground runner?
Cheers Paul

Sounds well thought out – good luck.

I bet the site insurance premium goes up a bit with a runner!

Ground runners

JP XS186 will initially be restrained to short forays around what are the remains of admin site tracks and an open hardstanding area in front of the parking bay she currently occupies at Metheringham.

Without making too much about what we are working towards, we have started to build a short link track between XS186’s hardstanding and the main track, to make her trip over the current rough ground in between a little easier.
The first few metres were laid last month.

Discussions are to start shortly regarding a good section of grass strip adjacent the hard areas that may be able to be used too, and as we are at least 18 months from getting her started up there is time to make progress in both these areas.