Guy Gibson VC (2006 Zombie)

There could be a dozen reasons for the Mossy to crash, however I understand the kite was on fire, if so it was not a shortage of fuel. Wasn’t there an eye witness , a local who reported the aircraft circling with the engines coughing, I am sure I read that somewhere. Gibson was certainly not stupid enough to get shot down by a Lanc gunner, and the theory that he was unfamiliar with the aircraft is codswallop’s. :confused:

But surely a Mosquito, being manufactured from what itself is a fuel, would burn quite nicely without necessarily having any fuel in its tanks.

That Gibson was ‘not stupid enough’ to get shot down by a Lanc gunner is not a judgement that anybody who did not know the man could reasonably make. There have been many stories of how brave/daring/reckless Gibson was, so nobody really knows for sure – but rumours abound.

The death of a “hero” will always attract malicious and salacious “gossip”. The facts will never be known for certain although clearly some conculsions were drawn on examination of the aircraft.

But all the conjecture becomes a bit pointless because it can never be finally resolved. What is for sure is that he was one of a number of fine and brave airmen who did not survive the war. That is all that really matters.

Guy Gibson VC

There could be a dozen reasons for the Mossy to crash, however I understand the kite was on fire, if so it was not a shortage of fuel. Wasn’t there an eye witness , a local who reported the aircraft circling with the engines coughing, I am sure I read that somewhere. Gibson was certainly not stupid enough to get shot down by a Lanc gunner, and the theory that he was unfamiliar with the aircraft is codswallop’s. :confused:

pity we coulsnt see the ballroom in the Stork…i have it from a reliable source that Al Bowley did a duet with Glenn Miller having landed at Speke in Amelia’s Earhart’s Lockheed……in 1946!

Seriously i am delighted to see that most of the rest of you feel the same as i do on this story…TOTAL KERRAP! :diablo:

Gibson diving on Lancs and Halifax’s ? In the dark? over occupied Europe?

Tooks guts to take on 6 or 8 .303’s..never mind playing silly ******s with them!

Wait a minute….isn’t that a knotted bed sheet rope descending from one of the upper windows? Is that how Bader left all of the buildings he stayed in? Maybe it was just that he found stairs too tricky? Anyway…back to Gibson…I well recall visiting the crash site in 1971 and fair got out of breath climbing that steep hill to the actual spot!! Andy

Oh and any pilot who can manage to crash his aircraft in the Dutch mountains should be recommended for excellent airmanship (instead of being reprimanded). Although it would need some very low flying.
Cees

However I am now waiting to hear that in fact his tail was shot off, and that both he and N!gger were seen in a certain hostelry in Liverpool in 1945 on VE night throwing down copious quantities of lager. This then led to both of them becoming ‘legless’ in the traditional manner of 99.999% of aircrew. 😀

While I don’t want to hi-jack this thread, I think I must share a photograph that I have received from a fiend of mine in Australasia. According to his email DB and N!gger were not the only note-worthy individuals to have stayed at the Storch Hotel in Livergrad. By all accounts is has been the favoured haunt of many high profile people, wishing to get away, over the years, as his photograph shows.

I have inspected this photograph closely, and can confirm that is hasn’t been doctored in any way or form, it is as genuine as a Tony Blair address to the house of commons.

Just my opinin but………

During wartime if you were playing around to check if (friendly) others were alert, then you were mad as hell. Even at night over enemy territory. Nobody would be sane enough to do such a thing.

Cees

As a former journalist – or reptile – myself 😮

It is OK I’m not offended, just reminded of the addage – rubbish in, rubbish out. The paper will use the excuse that they were simply reporting the memories of an old soldier. The sad fact is that, having found a historian with a grasp of the truth, they haven’t given him due prominance, prefering barrack room rumour to carefully weighed evidence 🙁

The whole thing is getting bizzare. I think a couple of letters to the editor will help. Try reminding him/her that 100% accuracy is a minimum standard.

“Apparently as he flew back toward Britain he saw a train and, as he was convinced it was carrying ammunition, he decided to fly low and machine gun it.”

My understanding was that on his last sortie Gibson was acting as Master Bomber flying a Mosquito B.XX. If so, then what exactly did he use to “machine gun” this train then? Did he take along his own personal Lewis gun which he poked out of the DV window perhaps? 😀

My almost complete contempt for news reptiles remains as strong as ever!
I wonder why?
Andy

For today’s instalment from the Lincolnshire Echo please see the link below!!

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=156582&command=displayContent&sourceNode=156408&contentPK=15721372&folderPk=87028&pNodeId=156139

I hear the latest is that Snoopy got the Red Baron after all. Watch out for the documentary! Andy

didn’t Glenn Miller die of friendly fire? :p

A friend of mine was on one of the squadrons that may have caused his death, click here for more.

Ron Brown Interview

Clogs with crampons and old windmill sails for step ladders! Sorry Cees!! Andy

Don’t forget the cheese and tulips. Otherwise we Dutch will be annoyed. 😀 😀

Cees

Clogs with crampons and old windmill sails for step ladders! Sorry Cees!! Andy

Its useful to have an archaeologists viewpoint, of course, but I am sure the Netherlands Mountain Rescue Service will shortly find the wreckage and then the sarky-ologists can get out their anoraks and shovels and give us their valued opinion!! :diablo: Andy Saunders

Are they equipped with crampons or step ladders? 😀

didn’t Glenn Miller die of friendly fire? :p

Hopefully this thread will go the same way 😀

Is anyone else missing something here?

After reading EN830’s post it becomes apparent that IF Guy Gibson had been shot down then there would have been bullet holes!!, they obviously made a thorough investigation of the wreckage to find that there was a faulty fuel tank selector so it stands to reason that they would have found anything else that would have been the cause of the crash.
Certainly during the investigation the first question that would have been on everyones mind in the immidiate aftermath of the crash would have been ‘was he shot down?’.

In the article there is also no references or evidence, a claim by a veteran that he ‘thought’ he saw a twin engined plane and then shot at it is no proof positive of what happened, I think this is a cheap shot by someone who wants to sell books!.

Regards,

John.

didn’t Glenn Miller die of friendly fire? :p