July 9, 2012 at 10:58 am
Hi……
I am about too start a “job” on a working model of a Gypsy Queen engine
(am I correct in saying the Gypsy 6 ?)
Does anybody know where I can find parts for it as I may need too install missing parts to it (Ie nuts and bolts)
Also….. (I know I am pulling the rabbit out of the hat here)
The engine drawing’s as they will be more than useful when building the engine together again.
Thanks
By: Bruce - 12th July 2012 at 14:43
I like to see things spelt properly, but I’d rather we gave a new member a good welcome, and tried to help him with his project.
I’ve just sold all my GQ manuals, so I cant help any more, but there are a number of CD’s on ebay that should help.
Bruce
By: Snoopy7422 - 12th July 2012 at 14:34
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By: Snoopy7422 - 11th July 2012 at 11:46
Direct Track.
May I suggest that Birdwithnowings just takes a photo of the dataplate and posts it here. It’d save a lot of beating around the bush. 🙂
By: Arabella-Cox - 10th July 2012 at 13:38
I heard you the first time.
Apologies for the duplicate……….finger trouble!!!!!! Removed!
Planemike
By: Oxcart - 10th July 2012 at 13:02
Thank goodness someone corrected the spelling!! I had absolutely no idea what the gentleman was talking about until the ‘Y’ was replaced by an ‘I’…
By: knifeedgeturn - 10th July 2012 at 10:57
To a group of pedants, me included, the spelling of the engine name is important. Yes, would also be interested in details of the project.
Planemike
I heard you the first time.
By: dhfan - 10th July 2012 at 10:49
In your view would it be an idea to contact the manufactures if they are still kicking around?
DH Engines went via Bristol-Siddeley to Rolls-Royce.
It’s possible the Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust inherited the archives but I don’t know if they did or not. Could be worth tryig them.
By: Birdwithnowings - 10th July 2012 at 09:43
You will get photos but that’s not going to happen until Mid September.
By which stage the topic will have gone 30,000ft in to the air by some sort of rocket ship or lost in the pits of doom of cyber space, alass when I come back I shall find the crash site of the rocket ship, or enter the pits of doom to retrieve the lost subject matter of the “Gipsy Queen”
(see what I did there copy and paste it worked wonders)
By: Arabella-Cox - 10th July 2012 at 09:00
But we’re not just about spelling are we? I for one would be interested in hearing about (and seeing) the engine in question.
To a group of pedants, me included, the spelling of the engine name is important. Yes, would also be interested in details of the project.
Plamemike
By: knifeedgeturn - 10th July 2012 at 08:12
But we’re not just about spelling are we? I for one would be interested in hearing about (and seeing) the engine in question.
By: Stan Smith - 9th July 2012 at 22:50
Oh Dear Oh Dear OH Dear!!!!
Rusty Tack will be having a Heart attack. The DH engine line were the GIPSY again GIPSY not gypsy gipsey gypsey or any other conotation. Plural–Add an s.
By: Birdwithnowings - 9th July 2012 at 21:47
Guys thanks for the reply.
when I come back from work I will have a butchers on e-bay for manuals
the aircraft in question has been strips down before (well before my time) and was used in an aeronautical training school/university so sections have been cut out to show working parts, as a practical engineering prospective of how the engine works.
As it was a practical piece, you could turn the props by hand you cant do this any more as its ceased up. a bit rusty looking and needs a face lift.
The engine I will be working on is a Gipsy Queen as to the version, I and a lot of other people know very little of this engine.
(Thankfully) However the building plate is still on it, And it reads as follows
Master control Type Development Alteration Serial No. 2074…..The number 4 could be a 1.
Being that there is a serial number on it. In your view would it be an idea to contact the manufactures if they are still kicking around?
Thanks planemike for the attention to my spelling.
Thanks Stan.
By: Arabella-Cox - 9th July 2012 at 15:56
Hi……
I am about too start a “job” on a working model of a Gypsy Queen engine
(am I correct in saying the Gypsy 6 ?)Does anybody know where I can find parts for it as I may need too install missing parts to it (Ie nuts and bolts)
Also….. (I know I am pulling the rabbit out of the hat here)
The engine drawing’s as they will be more than useful when building the engine together again.
Thanks
Bird…………
Welcome to the forum. I sure you will find offers of help here……..
Them engines is GIPSIES…………….!!!
Planemike
PS Good luck with the project.
By: Snoopy7422 - 9th July 2012 at 13:12
Queens.
Hi……
I am about too start a “job” on a working model of a Gypsy Queen engine
(am I correct in saying the Gypsy 6 ?)Does anybody know where I can find parts for it as I may need too install missing parts to it (Ie nuts and bolts)
Also….. (I know I am pulling the rabbit out of the hat here)
The engine drawing’s as they will be more than useful when building the engine together again.
Thanks
I’m not too clear on what you are asking. Are you restoring a real engine or making a model..? Actual drawing will be a big problem, but original manuals can be had on eBay, as can CD copies.
The DH Gipsy Queens were memebrs of a family of engines. There are many diffferences, so you need to be explicit about exactly which version you are talking about. (If you PM me the details, I’ll try and help you identify it.)
Here is a brief rundown, – it’s not exhaustive, as there were some very short-run versions that are little-known or never got beyond the prototype stage.
These are the first-generation from 1934 onwards and all were around 200hp, give or take a few hp ;-
Gipsy Six
Gipsy Six Series II *
Gipsy Queen
Gipsy Queen II *
Gipsy Queen III
(* These engines had a splined crank for a VP airscrew.)
All these above engines are basically similar, even if some major components differ.
After this, the next generation, from about 1947 shared only the basic configuration and mounting dimensions, – and a few screws;-
Queen 30 * 250hp.
Queen 30-2 * 250hp.
Queen 70 * and derivatives;- All geared & supercharged. Aprox’ 350hp + at take-off.
By: mark_pilkington - 9th July 2012 at 11:55
Ebay quite often has original de Havilland engine manuals come up for the Gipsy Six, Queen II, Queen III and Queen 70’s, and all of those are available on ebay on CD virtually all the time in anycase.
Both versions have large drawings etc that will be more than adequate for working on and re-assembling an old engine as against casting up one from scratch.
regards
Mark Pilkington