Happy 100 Years Fleet Air Arm

The Life archive also has a set on British WWII aircraft carriers, British Press and HMG issue mainly I’d guess….no captions at all.
http://images.google.com/images?q=1939-1945+aircraft&q=source%3Alife.

Hawk 2009 photo Culdrose March26

Question; why is the single engined Harrier NOT allowed to take part in the flypast, but the single engined Hawks of the Red Arrows ARE allowed to fly over Buckingham Palace.?

Harrier GR.7/9 etc don’t have a Ram Air Turbine. The Hawks have a RAT and Auxiliary Power Unit fitted. As already pointed out you would have to fly a Harrier at heights well above the normal for a flypast.

Hawks took the place of Harriers during the 2007 25th Falklands Anniversary Flypast too.

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=292040&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=True

TJ

Fleet Air Arm photos in LIFE Mag Archive

These have recently been added, with a sample

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=1939-1945+Fleet+Airarm+source:life&sa=N&start=21&ndsp=21

Very true, it is. I think that is pretty much the standard procedure if anything goes wrong in flight as far as the Harrier is concerned.

But any area big enough to fit a Harrier in is an airfield so that excuse won’t wash. Admittedly dead sticking one in is no fun but still within the capabilities of a pilot who is current and has his/ her wits aboout them, or it should be.

Errr…. if the engine stops you can’t hover so it’s going to be a running landing and with a glide angle of 4000′ per mile you don’t have a lot of time to find somewhere big enough to land. The stall speed, for the first gen Harriers at least, was pretty high as well.
I’m fairly sure the immediate action for a low level engine failure in the Harrier is Eject.

Harriers having the glide performance of a brick are restricted in where they can operate over built up areas or only at a height that’s pointless for a flypast. I’d have to check the geography but I think if a Hawk has an engine failure in the vicinity of Buckingham Palace it should be able to divert to Northolt/a Park. A Harrier would probably land on the Palace, I think the only person to dead stick a Harrier was one of the test pilots whose response was along the lines of ‘******* that for a lark’.

But any area big enough to fit a Harrier in is an airfield so that excuse won’t wash. Admittedly dead sticking one in is no fun but still within the capabilities of a pilot who is current and has his/ her wits aboout them, or it should be.

Crikey, there’s a face from the past! Brian used to be my TS when I was an apprentice!!

We can help with that:

First flight from a moving ship (HMS Hibernia) of the Royal Navy. Lt C R Samson on 2 May 1912 in a Short S.38 biplane, Naval Biplane number 2. Not a float plane, the items under the wings are flotation bags to enable the aircraft to land at sea in an emergency only.

Early success was the Cuxhaven raid on Christmas Day 1914. 119 was a Short Type 81 Folder which took part in the raid and then below is a rather fanciful artists impression of the events.

And the Short Type 184 – the first RNAS aircraft to drop a torpedo, and the first in the world to attack an enemy ship with an air dropped torpedo:

Nice report and pics Ollie, looks like the Saints crews were there.

I must admit when I started this thread I was hoping for input, memories, and photos about the RNAS and FAA in general, a celebration of British naval aviation, you know Carriers, Shorts 184s, Baffins, Nimrods, Fireflys, Seafires, Gannets, Sea Vixens, Wessex, Phantoms etc.

Harriers having the glide performance of a brick are restricted in where they can operate over built up areas or only at a height that’s pointless for a flypast. I’d have to check the geography but I think if a Hawk has an engine failure in the vicinity of Buckingham Palace it should be able to divert to Northolt/a Park. A Harrier would probably land on the Palace, I think the only person to dead stick a Harrier was one of the test pilots whose response was along the lines of ‘******* that for a lark’.

GREENWICH STATIC AIRCRAFT

I have just returned home from Greenwich where I helped put together the static display aircraft. Points of note are that both the Sea King and the Lynx are still active airframes the Harrier and the Gazelle are training aircraft only. All were supplied by the Defence College of Aeronautical Engineering at HMS Sultan Gosport. The Lynx has a borrowed undercarriage from one of HMS Endurances Lynx hence the red paint. The display will be at Greenwich until monday when they will return to Sultan, that is except for the Lynx which will transfer to Windsor for another display. All of these aircraft should appear again on the 26th May at the Royal Bath and West showground. I hope this is of some use to other forumites.

Question; why is the single engined Harrier NOT allowed to take part in the flypast, but the single engined Hawks of the Red Arrows ARE allowed to fly over Buckingham Palace.?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8037993.stm

Footage of the flypast is up on BBC website

What is it with these 24 hour news stations (BBC & Sky in this case) insisting on taking over half the screen with their damn headline ‘straps’? The shots of the flypast/over were reduced to no more than a letterbox due to the “Breaking News” strap plonked on top of the scrolling marquee. Can’t they turn them off for the few seconds that a report might need a full screen picture?

I had to chuckle as some ignorant photographer rushing to stand in front of the BBC camera crew only to get a swift poke (and I expect a couple of choice words of motivation) in the back. He looked round then ducked down out of the way!!

It is actually 100 years of Navy flying not the FAA… [pedant mode off] 😉

Not that low key there are a number of events including one this weekend in Greenwich

see here http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=90511.

The details of the other events are on the Navy web site