Harold Shipman does the decent thing !

Anyone in particular in mind?

Flood.

Imagine a super-celebrity who was also a severe epileptic. The bloody paparazzi would keep sending them onto the pavement every time they appeared.

I’ve had this on my mind all week. Totally irrelevant, but I wanted to share it.

You wanna watch him, in his cell, 24 hours a day?

Me neither!

Flood.

The main question is will Rappens follow suit ??????

Apparently Hollywood have already bought the rights to the Shipman story.

Word is that Robert De Niro’s been signed to play the lead role.

They’re thinking of calling it ‘The Old-Dear Hunter”…

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Originally posted by Comet
It lowers the crime rate in Singapore! And you have to admit, it is the only way which is guaranteed to stop someone re-offending!

But hasn’t Singapore outlawed chewing gum in the street? – Now that might not be a bad thing but they have had a different style of education and live a life where they know their place in life. Britains are shown that to be offensive, brash, surly is the way to go – in popular culture and in the media.
Giving a sentence that means something would do a little bit more to appeal to any potential criminals good nature; showing that life isn’t all that bad on Eastenders and making them smile occasionally will drop the ratings but could help to start to bring the country around. Forcing celebrities to be more pleasent and less superior might help. Giving kids a form of community spirit from the nursery onwards is the way to go: keeping them from being influenced by outside factors would be much more difficult. – Nermal

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Originally posted by Geforce
I thought the middle ages were over already. I can agree with the fact that he’s better off death, and that he diserved what he got, but “burning in the fires of hell as we speak” :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I agree with Kev, he should just be jailed for the rest of his life, so that he could think of what he did wrong. That would be the worst punishment. I don’t think capital punishment would help, because reality shows us it doesn’t lower the crime rate in the US compared to Europe.

It lowers the crime rate in Singapore! And you have to admit, it is the only way which is guaranteed to stop someone re-offending!

And tax payers money could be better spent on facilities for hospitals and schools to help proper people instead of keeping criminal scum in luxury.

Number one. Carr was found guilty of something else – she didn’t play a part in killing the girls. Huntley did that, and she didn’t even know. That’s what a fair trial is for.

Now to Shipman. Why did he kill himself? Because, for him, it was the better option. He wasn’t happy. By denying that piece of **** the chance to be happy, it would have been better if he had survived in my book. Just make his life even more awful, and with even less hope. I just hope that Huntley doesn’t get the chance to kill himself – just don’t give him a cushy life in prison. Now, I am all for capital punishment – bring it on I say – and would have liked to watch Huntley and Shipman be executed. But very, very slowly and very, very painfully. Or gratuitously. Take for example the rat placed on the stomach. You heat a bowl up, really really hot, and place it over old rattus Norvegicus. To escape it will chew down through the stomach. Nice, huh?

Originally posted by Old Git
As I said earlier I have very strong views on this for the simple reason that some years ago something truly dreadful happened to a close member of my family (which I am not going to go into here) and the person/animal was never caught.
The victim obviously suffers but so does everyone around them as we were all deeply traumatised by what happened for a long time afterwards.
Now if some people here think that prison was best for Shipman and his ilk then thats up to you but it doesn’t cut it for me and what I would say to you is walk a mile in another persons shoes and see how they fit for size before you make value judgements about their views.

Old Git.

Your views are noted and respected. I too lost an Uncle last year as a result of a violent attack. Again, the perpetrator was never caught. I have no qualms with the death penalty as long as there is incontravertible proof of guilt. But the death penalty does not exist in the UK. So it was right that Shipman was jailed for life, in this case meaning never to be released. He may at some point in the future have revealed more about his victims and his motives. It is tragic then that he was able to end his life at the time of his choosing, when he knew there was no hope of appeal. In this way he has cheated justice.

Just a word about value judgments. Your statement applies equally to you too. It appears I ‘have walked a mile in another persons shoes’ so I have some idea of what you are talking about.

Benjamin.

I would have brought the death penalty back for Shipman in a heartbeat, Convicted of 15 murders, suspected of 215 and with a possibility of his total being even higher? He did not deserve to live to have the opportunity of ending his own life when he had had enough. That time should have been chosen for him, just as he chose when to kill his victims.

Regards,

kev35

As I said earlier I have very strong views on this for the simple reason that some years ago something truly dreadful happened to a close member of my family (which I am not going to go into here) and the person/animal was never caught.
The victim obviously suffers but so does everyone around them as we were all deeply traumatised by what happened for a long time afterwards.
Now if some people here think that prison was best for Shipman and his ilk then thats up to you but it doesn’t cut it for me and what I would say to you is walk a mile in another persons shoes and see how they fit for size before you make value judgements about their views.

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Originally posted by Comet
That’s excellent news. The thing had no right to live anyway.

It will be burning away in the fires of Hell as we speak:D

I love it when criminal scum gets what’s coming to it:D

Hopefully that thing from Soham will be next:D

I thought the middle ages were over already. I can agree with the fact that he’s better off death, and that he diserved what he got, but “burning in the fires of hell as we speak” :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I agree with Kev, he should just be jailed for the rest of his life, so that he could think of what he did wrong. That would be the worst punishment. I don’t think capital punishment would help, because reality shows us it doesn’t lower the crime rate in the US compared to Europe.

Re: dr shipman

Originally posted by duxfordhawk
i think he took the easy way out he should have been watched and lived his sentence to the full he ain’t sufferin anymore but the families are how do you think they feel???????

Coudn’t have put it better myself

dr shipman

i think he took the easy way out he should have been watched and lived his sentence to the full he ain’t sufferin anymore but the families are how do you think they feel???????

Originally posted by kev35
Harold Shipman has not done the decent thing, he has escaped justice. He needed to rot in prison then perhaps he may, and I only say may, have eventually admitted to just how many he had killed. That may have put some kind of closure to the whole affair for the families who remain uncertain whether he killed members of their family. Even his death at the hands of an executioner would have been preferable to this. For him to be able to end his life at the time of his choosing is terrible. None of his victims ever had that opportunity.

Regards,

kev35

Correct Kevin, and might I say this thread is as ghoulish as a public execution.

Originally posted by Comet
That Huntley thing and also the Carr thing should both die. That way it would save alot of money to the British taxpayer – who has to pay to keep the Huntley thing in luxury and keep the Carr thing protected. It would be much better value if some of the taxpayers money were spent on electrocuting scum (the electric chair is preferable to lethal injection, because when it is done well it causes hell of alot more pain and suffering to the scum:D )

As you may have gathered from another thread Comet I am with you in your views. People here are publically beheaded after noon prayers on a Friday. As a westerner, you are pushed to the front of the crowd because they think we are soft on crime. Up until a few years ago a nominated relative could carry out the execution with the sword but a permanent executioner was appointed after one relative made a bad job of it. Neither is there a long drawn out appeals procedure. A case I remember well was a 6 year old girl was kidnapped one night, taken into the desert and raped, Instead of killing her he left her and once the sun came up she would have died in no time. Quite by chance a bedouin in a truck saw her wandering around and took her into town. The animal who raped her had been stopped at a check point and the bedouin arrived with the girl while they were asking him what he was doing and where he was going. The next day in court the judge found him guilty and his words are worth quoting “You have brought chaos on earth and it will no longer be tolerated, you will be beheaded on Friday” and he was.
Islam may have its faults but they have got that right in my opinion.

Originally posted by Flood
And you always wondered why you never made chief constable?:rolleyes:

Flood.

Rest assured it eventually dawned on me

Harold Shipman has not done the decent thing, he has escaped justice. He needed to rot in prison then perhaps he may, and I only say may, have eventually admitted to just how many he had killed. That may have put some kind of closure to the whole affair for the families who remain uncertain whether he killed members of their family. Even his death at the hands of an executioner would have been preferable to this. For him to be able to end his life at the time of his choosing is terrible. None of his victims ever had that opportunity.

Regards,

kev35

Originally posted by robc
When the girls first went missing and Huntley was on TV i didnt think it was him, he looked too nice.

And you always wondered why you never made chief constable?:rolleyes:

Flood.

When the girls first went missing and Huntley was on TV i didnt think it was him, he looked too nice.

Originally posted by TornadoF3
well i think that it is his fault

who is he anyway?

He was a twisted GP (Doctor) who killed many of his patients, mostly older and more vulnerable people by giving them ridiculous amounts of morphine. He even forged wills apparently, trying to make himself richer in the process.