Harrier and Phantom to Move

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cheers Matt

Just going through this one and it reminds me that I have an early Harrier nose section in storage, is it worth restoring? Are the bits readily available as I don’t have any cockpit fittings just the shell?

The aircraft was restored by JA -put up for sale and sold. Not sure when the society bit started . As for the price matter -there is no evidence to suggest that many U.K museums can afford the price range of 50-75K -hence why the vast majority have gone to people for private display and technical colleges.
The batches of Sea Harriers that entered presrvation circa ten years ago plus were in the region of 5k so yes museums could afford those.

Phantomphil, I’m aware of JAs work, but there still only appears to be one generation 1 Harrier restored.

http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/2012/10/any-landing-you-can-walk-away-from/

Thanks Dave, I know of that move but unclear if it was sold as such, I’m guessing that if a society was formed for this jet that that is how the resto was funded?

My point (and why I’m referring to that airframe!) is that I can’t see much evidence that you can spend money on restoring a Harrier and then sell it for £50 – 75k, yes there might be examples around that have done that but that price must preclude most museums and individuals?
Surely more will see preservation at the likes of Brunty etc if they went direct from MoD?

This thread may shed some light on the topic http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=117818

Does anyone know where the ex-waddo F4 is?

The ‘ethnic cleansing’ of the type in Yorkshire has been successful ! Lincolnshire has the one on the gate at Conningsby which really deserves a roof over its head .

None!!!

I have now had it confirmed that it was the Leeming F4 and that going to be a gate Guard somewhere down south, Not sure where but not a current military establishment :(:(

So where then?

Just wondering now Leemings F4 has gone, how many are left in Yorkshire? 🙁 come to think of that Lincolnshire also, just 1?

The really famous, well restored, as seen on EBay & TV one…

http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/2012/10/any-landing-you-can-walk-away-from/

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I think there was only XV499 left at Leeming that the Yorkshire Air Museum had been campaigning to get hold of for many years! The only other example I can think of would be a former Leuchars machine.
It beggars belief that Dumfries and Galloway museum and YAM tried for years to both try and save examples for preservation to no avail and now it seems DS&E are working to a completely different scheme.

I have now had it confirmed that it was the Leeming F4 and that going to be a gate Guard somewhere down south, Not sure where but not a current military establishment :(:(

So where then?

The other Harriers are on this list:

http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/what-we-do/aircraft/

The really famous, well restored, as seen on EBay & TV one, I didn’t realise that they had done more than one?

Edit, this one, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/8343665/Harrier-seeks-good-home.html

Which one ?

I have neither the space, the time or the money for a Harrier right now, though I might regret it in my retirement!

What, spend your hard earned on a restoration, and then have it in your garden to enjoy when you’ve retired!:D

Did the Jet Art one sell in the end?

I think there was only XV499 left at Leeming that the Yorkshire Air Museum had been campaigning to get hold of for many years! The only other example I can think of would be a former Leuchars machine.
It beggars belief that Dumfries and Galloway museum and YAM tried for years to both try and save examples for preservation to no avail and now it seems DS&E are working to a completely different scheme.

Others have tried and failed at various locations as I can personally vouch!! 🙁

One interesting trend (not specifically related to Phantoms – just to scotch any rumours at source) is that several of the ‘new’ owners are becoming increasingly proactive in offering their products – often on a variety of terms and sometimes with ‘odd’ strings attached!

Signs of slow trade perhaps? :confused:

My comments were merely to say that it looks to be in good enough order to restore, and do so well.

I have neither the space, the time or the money for a Harrier right now, though I might regret it in my retirement!

‘Poo’ aside, the cockpit and the rest of the airframe appear eminently restorable. That said, when you look at the starting points for some restorations, that is an easy comment to make.

Bruce

I think there was only XV499 left at Leeming that the Yorkshire Air Museum had been campaigning to get hold of for many years! The only other example I can think of would be a former Leuchars machine.
It beggars belief that Dumfries and Galloway museum and YAM tried for years to both try and save examples for preservation to no avail and now it seems DS&E are working to a completely different scheme.

Just passed an F4 on a low loader heading south on the A1 at Harrogate. Looked like one of the Leeming ones but don’t quote me etc.

I’ve seen the pictures – at least its still open and operational as an airfield.

Could have gone the same way as Wildenrath – now that really is run down and changed almost beyond recognition…

Visited Laarbruch/Niederrhein some months ago. Indeed very active, but the road in is lined with vandalized and abandoned base buildings, some even burnt out (arson I suspect).

As for Wildenrath I had the pleasure of witnessing the last aircraft to leave after landing there. And it wasn’t military. It was a friend who landed off-field there by mistake. God knows how he managed to miss all the obstacles (the runway had already been torn up partially, trenches were criss-crossing the land, rubbish everywhere and they were pulling down one of the main hangars as we drove off. It took us some serious time to find somebody with the keys to the locked gates, and some serious off-roading to get the trailer to the glider. The place was a torn-up wreck by then, and new buildings and roads were springing up like mushrooms all over. He paid the beer that night.