Does anyone know where this is?? 😮
It would be a shame if this lot was scrapped
Harrier scrap yard
By: Dave T - 8th June 2005 at 13:42
XP984 at Brooklands doesn’t have a ‘Harrier’ wing. It lacks both the tip extensions and the leading edge extensions found on the Harrier I wing…
Dees,
Yes you are correct as it stands at Brooklands now. I should have said ‘did’ have a Harrier wing, but luckily the good folks at Dunsfold acquired an earlier series wing for it for its rebuild.
By: Peter Mills - 8th June 2005 at 13:22
Hi Duncan,
I bow to your superior knowledge! I made the assumption that they were ZD400 having been told that she was there. However, I agree that they sure look like GR3. They are not new, having seen them close up. There are a number of other Harrier wing sections laying around all displaying large amount of Carbon fibre!
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th June 2005 at 12:57
Those wings look like GR3 to me, so definately not new build!
Sidetracking slightly, but still on the subject of Harriers, I found this account on PPRuNe of a rather interesting ejection from a GR1… 🙂 http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177593
By: dees01 - 8th June 2005 at 12:49
XP984 at Brooklands doesn’t have a ‘Harrier’ wing. It lacks both the tip extensions and the leading edge extensions found on the Harrier I wing. XP984, being the last of the P1127s, incorporated a lot of bits found in the Kestrel series jets, including the revised anhedral tailplane. Her wing is (as far as i can tell at present) effectively the same as that found on the Kestrel. I amy have a look at some of the old flight test reports later, if I’m bored, and have a look see…
By: Dave T - 8th June 2005 at 10:58
Hi, Pete, not really sure about that. GR5s were never painted camo, they were only green. So unless that wing has been ‘cammo’d up’, it isn’t a Harrier II mainplane. Also, looking at the pics again, there appears to be a kink in the covered leading edge, and the Harrier II leading edge is straight. Harrier I mainplanes either had the dogtooth, or in the case of FA2s, had the dogtooth faired in.
Cheers
I agree.
The only thing in common with 1st and 2nd generation Harriers is the name and the fact they go up and down.
Believe me, there is no interchangeability of parts… been there done that !! 😀
Even the P1127/Kestrel series have differences in the wing, as the examples at both Brooklands and Yeovilton have ‘Harrier’ wings.
By: dees01 - 8th June 2005 at 08:58
Hi, Pete, not really sure about that. GR5s were never painted camo, they were only green. So unless that wing has been ‘cammo’d up’, it isn’t a Harrier II mainplane. Also, looking at the pics again, there appears to be a king in the covered leading edge, and the Harrier II leading edge is straight. Harrier I mainplanes either had the dogtooth, or in the case of FA2s, had the dogtooth faired in.
Cheers
Duncan
PS how’s things at Charlwood?
By: Peter Mills - 8th June 2005 at 08:33
The wing sections that are covered are a part of ZD400, I believe this was a GR5 that had an accident at Wittering some years ago. Unfortunately the fuselage has not survived so well.
By: stringbag - 7th June 2005 at 22:57
That 899NAS colour scheme looked awesome on the T4Ns and FRS.1s.
Hopefully when XW268 is in need of re-finishing, the markings will be re-applied.
By: Dumbspar - 7th June 2005 at 17:21
What a sad and nostalgic picture-my logbook[PPl] states XW268 Wittering/Waddington returnto recover RED 10 31/8/84-those were the days!!!!
By: Dave T - 7th June 2005 at 15:05
Jaguar bits
And a couple of the Jaguar bits (from different sources), although i dont think its the same aircraft, plus a section of something ? :confused:
By: Peter - 7th June 2005 at 15:05
i am referring to the quality and condition of the paint on the one in wraps not the one in the forground. unless it is wet……..
By: dees01 - 7th June 2005 at 14:55
Ahh no… New ‘metal’ wing sets haven’t been made since 1997, since the last of the new build SHARs. And they were grey, not camo… And if hey look new to you Peter, I’ve got a ‘brand new’ car for sale…. 😀
By: Peter - 7th June 2005 at 14:40
But the paint looks brand new!
By: Dave T - 7th June 2005 at 14:33
Did you happen to notice in one of those photos on that site the set of wings that looked new in wrappings?
Yes, but they aren’t new.
These wrappings are merely the foul weather covers that are used in service.
The yard owners deal in supplying spares so i presume they are/were wrapped in the hope that a (foreign ?) buyer has need for some wings.
By: ZRX61 - 7th June 2005 at 14:27
There’s rows of them parked up at Davis Monthan, or at least there used to be…
By: Peter - 7th June 2005 at 14:18
Thanks Dave.
Thankfully her fate is not sealed and I can not think of a better place than Gatwick museum for her to end her days. At least she will be lovingly looked after. Did you happen to notice in one of those photos on that site the set of wings that looked new in wrappings?
By: Peter Mills - 7th June 2005 at 13:06
Dave,
Not my pictures I’m afraid, but I will ask the source if he has any. I still haven’t been there yet, I hadn’t forgotton.
By: Dave T - 7th June 2005 at 12:31
And heres more……… 😀
(Peter M’, do you have any more of the interior as requested last Autumn ?)
By: Peter Mills - 7th June 2005 at 10:41
Here is a recent photo of the same airframe.
By: Dave T - 7th June 2005 at 06:53
Pete,
Yes, thats Harrier T.4N XW268 (ex-899) currently lying in the yard of Aero Logistics nr Crawley (and Jaguar XX733 also shown).
It is ~not~ for sale or to be scrapped, in fact it is shortly to move on loan to the Gatwick museum at Charlwood.
Well spotted though, thanks 😀
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