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Hawker Hurricane MkI P3717 – rebuild update

Hawker Restorations Limited very kindly released a photograph of their Hawker Hurricane MkI P3717 rebuild, which is being restored to airworthy condition in the UK.

The Hurricane is waiting for an important part from the USA, but is otherwise complete – and looking rather lovely! The photograph can be found below, together with a very brief overview of this Hurricane’s background. Hopefully more extensive coverage is to follow in the coming months.

http://globalaviationresource.com/v2/2013/10/25/news-hawker-hurricane-mki-p3717-g-hitt-rebuild-update/

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By: merlin70 - 28th April 2015 at 12:42

And probably another supplier of steel. The supplier of the original batch having lost a lot of money on the project since, eventually, they had to make three batches before getting it right. Mr Ditheridge’s opinion was that they would be unlikely to want to try again, ever.

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Airbus are currently developing the means to use additive manufacturing (3D printing) to make whole airliner wings. Perhaps there will come a time when complex airframe structures such as the Hurricane will be printed. 🙂

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By: Ant.H - 28th April 2015 at 11:11

I could have completely the wrong end of the stick (wouldn’t be the first time), but weren’t Canadian Hurricanes built with a US-equivalent steel? I was under the impression that the American stuff was still commercially available. Would that not do?

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By: powerandpassion - 28th April 2015 at 09:37

And probably another supplier of steel. The supplier of the original batch having lost a lot of money on the project since, eventually, they had to make three batches before getting it right. Mr Ditheridge’s opinion was that they would be unlikely to want to try again, ever.

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Who was the original supplier of the steel? Is there somebody I might talk to about the steel, thanks, Ed

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By: Moggy C - 28th April 2015 at 08:09

To make another production run viable, you would need to identify another 16 airframes…..

And probably another supplier of steel. The supplier of the original batch having lost a lot of money on the project since, eventually, they had to make three batches before getting it right. Mr Ditheridge’s opinion was that they would be unlikely to want to try again, ever.

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By: StevSmar - 28th April 2015 at 04:17

I wonder if there would be more luck if another thread was started regarding this Hurricane to highlight it better 🙂

I think that’s a great idea, thanks for the links- interesting.

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By: Sopwith - 27th April 2015 at 20:34

Thanks Geoff, interesting links.

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By: 1batfastard - 27th April 2015 at 19:21

Hi All,
Trumper and Sopwith,
I thought that starting a thread of it’s own would end up being displayed within this thread in a similar vain as did my post on the V1 it was taken down and reposted by the mods which makes sense I suppose. If you contact Ian Hancock nsam.flixton@tesco.net he can put you in touch with Mr Raynor or provide any additional info other than the sites I provided as most of P3708’s history are on those sites. There are more additional sites below some showing some more dig photos. :eagerness:
http://www.aviationmuseum.net/ouraircraft.htm

http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/p3708/Interesting

http://www.backtonormandy.org/the-history/air-force-operations/airplanes-allies-and-axis-lost/hurricane/4154378.html

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp/fullcatalogue.asp?salelot=A1068++++899+&refno=&image=3

http://www.goodall.com.au/warbirds-directory-v6/hawker-hawker-siddeley.pdf

http://flickeflu.com/set/72157626126452280

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By: Sopwith - 27th April 2015 at 10:14

Good idea Trumper, I’d like to hear more about it.

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By: trumper - 26th April 2015 at 20:44

Hi All,
Talking of Hurricanes Geoff Rayner who is trying to restore Mk1 P3708 could do with a boost in help as due to some health issues and promised work being put on hold has had an adverse affect on the restorations progress, slowly it is coming together but it would benefit from some more support from all you Hurricane fans out there myself included, here is a quote from an e-mail I was sent :- ” There are some quite complicated procedures to rescue the metalwork and re-use it after all these years. The work is skilled and there are few companies that can do it. Consequently, more important projects on their books have tended to occupy their resources” that in a nut shell is why I have taken this step in putting it on the forum that if anybody knows who can give this chap a hand or donate why not get in touch with a Mr Ian Hancock at nsam.flixton@tesco.net He can point you in the right direction.
I bought Geoff Hunt’s print (6 sig’s)when it first came out being tied in to the restoration and I am actively saving for the (40 BOB signature edition) which is still available at the waltonnaze link below the other links are just some history on this Hurricane about the Recovery/It’s Pilot etc.etc.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67251416@N08/sets/72157637885607055/
http://www.sweffling.freeserve.co.uk/foulness.htm
http://www.waltonnaze.demon.co.uk/print/index.html
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/10/af/e6/10afe6b8c2af3c5c4c37e43338db8c46.jpg Six Sigs.
http://www.waltonnaze.demon.co.uk/pics/hurrlg_sig.jpg 40 Sigs.

Geoff.

I wonder if there would be more luck if another thread was started regarding this Hurricane to highlight it better 🙂

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By: Student Pilot - 26th April 2015 at 14:11

Would depend on what he was doing.

The painting infers he’s rolling right like the other machine that’s peeling off towards the 111’s? If that is the case he should have some deflection of right rudder?

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By: Sopwith - 26th April 2015 at 10:27

In the painting with that much aileron deflection surely you would have a bootfull of rudder as well?

Would depend on what he was doing.

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By: Student Pilot - 26th April 2015 at 00:54

In the painting with that much aileron deflection surely you would have a bootfull of rudder as well?

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By: Keefy041 - 26th April 2015 at 00:24

Flying legends this year ?

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By: Keefy041 - 26th April 2015 at 00:22

Excellent stuff, can’t wait to see it.
Hurricane / hawker aircraft meet would be awesome.

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By: 1batfastard - 25th April 2015 at 19:28

Hi All,
Talking of Hurricanes Geoff Rayner who is trying to restore Mk1 P3708 could do with a boost in help as due to some health issues and promised work being put on hold has had an adverse affect on the restorations progress, slowly it is coming together but it would benefit from some more support from all you Hurricane fans out there myself included, here is a quote from an e-mail I was sent :- ” There are some quite complicated procedures to rescue the metalwork and re-use it after all these years. The work is skilled and there are few companies that can do it. Consequently, more important projects on their books have tended to occupy their resources” that in a nut shell is why I have taken this step in putting it on the forum that if anybody knows who can give this chap a hand or donate why not get in touch with a Mr Ian Hancock at nsam.flixton@tesco.net He can point you in the right direction.
I bought Geoff Hunt’s print (6 sig’s)when it first came out being tied in to the restoration and I am actively saving for the (40 BOB signature edition) which is still available at the waltonnaze link below the other links are just some history on this Hurricane about the Recovery/It’s Pilot etc.etc.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67251416@N08/sets/72157637885607055/
http://www.sweffling.freeserve.co.uk/foulness.htm
http://www.waltonnaze.demon.co.uk/print/index.html
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/10/af/e6/10afe6b8c2af3c5c4c37e43338db8c46.jpg Six Sigs.
http://www.waltonnaze.demon.co.uk/pics/hurrlg_sig.jpg 40 Sigs.

Geoff.

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By: DazDaMan - 25th April 2015 at 18:38

Nice! Hope she’ll be up and about soon.

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By: SADSACK - 25th April 2015 at 17:19

It would be nice to see some of the recent Hawker bi planes with the restored Hurricanes too and a Hunter or three 🙂

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By: hampden98 - 25th April 2015 at 16:54

When I got interested in historic airshow aviation in 1989 the aircraft that really caught my attention and imagination
were the Blenheim and The Hurricane.
I can remember entering the TFC hanger to see a silver Hurricane under restoration and spent many a weekend watching both the Blenheim and Sea Hurricane
progress to flight.
Now that we have sufficient Hurricanes how about a Hurricane Day at Duxford similar to the Spitfire day?

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By: Sopwith - 25th April 2015 at 16:13

Lovely to see.

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By: Peter - 25th April 2015 at 16:04

You can keep the spits I want to see more Hurricanes flying! 🙂

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