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Hawker Hurricane wooden section location help please

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Would anyone have any ideas where this wooden section part woud be located within the hawker Hurricane? It appears to have a covering of cockpit green on both sides.
In photo five there are signs of a circular cut shape not sure if this helps in anyway.

Sorry the green finish hasnt come out in the photos but i will try tomorrow with some better light.

Thank you for any help in advance

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By: hawker1966 - 4th September 2018 at 18:54

ah just came across this old thread

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By: hawker1966 - 4th September 2018 at 18:41

Have to admit its the first that ive heard of this device, would anyone have a description of how and when it was used? as i cant appear to find any detailed information on the net.

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By: Foray - 4th September 2018 at 12:38

Alas no. I have the feeling that many/most of today’s flyers are only fitted with the external plywood panel by the aerial mast and not the internals. The exception might be R4118.

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By: hawker1966 - 3rd September 2018 at 19:29

Hi Foray
Well that is pretty impressive well done for finding the panels location, i have to admit i looked at the photo you suggested and time and time again for some reason i couldnt picture it, but then i noticed the two extra fixing holes that were forced apart during the aircraft’s crash itself, also you can see the four nuts and fixing bolts on the images framework, i had looked through he Hawker restorations site but missed this well done once again.

Would you no or anyone else no more about the upward recognition device.

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By: Foray - 3rd September 2018 at 10:41

Base support for the upward recognition device inside the fuselage just by the aerial base – see picture no.13 on the wwetc.hurricane501.co.uk site ‘picture gallery’.

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By: hawker1966 - 30th August 2018 at 19:38

Just to add that i have seen the type of headed nuts/ bolts on a Hurricane but i cant get my head together to remember where.

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By: hawker1966 - 30th August 2018 at 19:36

Hi Anon
Thank you for your input, it was from a Hurricane crash site and was picked up at the former Tangmere aero jumble many years ago.
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By: Arabella-Cox - 30th August 2018 at 09:17

Apologies; unable to delete duplicate post. Can one of the mods do it?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 29th August 2018 at 20:25

That’s very thick plywood to be used on any aircraft, it would indicate that it is a part designed to bear a considerable load. Usually, thick wood parts are built up with blocks in the load-bearing areas, these being sandwiched between much thinner outer ply skins.

It doesn’t look much like aircraft ply, either. The laminations look too thick, more resembling a piece of a caravan or trailer, or even a boat!

What is the origin of the part; was it picked up at a crash site during the war or similar?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 29th August 2018 at 20:23

That’s very thick plywood to be used on any aircraft, it would indicate that it is a part designed to bear a considerable load. Usually, thick wood parts are built up with blocks in the load-bearing areas, these being sandwiched between much thinner outer ply skins.

It doesn’t look much like aircraft ply, either. The laminations look too thick, more resembling a piece of a caravan or trailer, or even a boat!

What is the origin of the part; was it picked up at a crash site during the war or similar?

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By: hawker1966 - 29th August 2018 at 17:08

Hi Tony
If anyone could nail it it would be yourself, but i know where your coming from in the time schedule hopefully something will come up along soon.

Hi Worc Aviation
Ive also had trouble posting images but ive found if you keep persevering the images will finally load, sometimes it can take a few days of trying.
Thanks for trying though.

Hi Foray
The panel i have is 5 and a half inches probably wider as it has been split in the crash itself.
The radiator faring is a possibility, i will take a look at this avenue.

Thanks again for your replies.

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By: Rocketeer - 29th August 2018 at 08:38

It looks familiar. The spin keel panels have thicker ply. If I had more time I could have a good look. I have a full set of Hurri wood

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By: Worcs Aviation - 29th August 2018 at 07:29

I have never seem to be able to post pics on this site, don’t know how to do it ? The part i mentioned is a bit like yours but looking again the metal bit is not right, really tough call to i.d. that one. i have loads of structure pics but nothing that I can see that matches, not to say its not in there somewhere!

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By: Foray - 28th August 2018 at 23:33

That long panel is in the order of 3 inches wide, your piece looks wider. The tube to the left of it is round and made of steel. The only place I can think of with that kind of thickness of ply but I don’t know about extent (and I don’t know the entire structure of the Hurricane) is in parts of the radiator fairing.

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By: hawker1966 - 28th August 2018 at 20:31

Any thoughts on the long panel to the right of the photo on this link, i cant quite make out the tubing to the left of the panel whether its square or round, any input would be great.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/9c/dd/5c9cddf9f0bc03cf90a6a3e149bfac6d.jpg

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By: hawker1966 - 28th August 2018 at 19:50

Im having a little trouble posting photos of the green colouring of the panel, but it is identical to the green colouring in the photo of the cockpit in the below link.

Not sure if this will help in anyway.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHtmSmwtjQYlsYe-uObaGMmzy9FBMAw8DjouSbAblC0LDIOLgWlA

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By: hawker1966 - 28th August 2018 at 18:37

Hi Worcs aviation
Would you have any links, images to the section that you have suggested as a possibility, it also looks similar to the panels left and right to the sides of the pilots position, but there are no circular cut outs or brackets of this kind.
I have seen this type of nut and bolt set up on the Hurricane but im blowed if i can place them.

I will post a couple of photos to try and capture the cockpit green colouring of the panel itself shortly.

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By: hawker1966 - 28th August 2018 at 18:32

Hi Foray
Thank you your reply, i was told it was Hurricane so was going down that route, the thickness is approx 17mm but has swelled in other areas.

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By: Worcs Aviation - 28th August 2018 at 17:27

There are some thick pieces of ply, had a look through my pictures and just cant place it with the metal attached. Looks a bit like the small section behind the red Nav / Landing light ?? Hole for light and remains of mounting holes ??

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By: Foray - 28th August 2018 at 10:48

hawker1966, what makes you think Hurricane? It looks a chunky bit of ply – what thickness? Most of the sheet ply on the Hurricane is quite thin.

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